Posts by startingover

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Obama ignores subpoena in CA- he is in now default

by moshe in

u.s. district court.

central district of california.

southern division.

startingover

Just curious BizzyBee, do you have any proof of these claims?

Do you have any idea how many people (crazies, prisoners, mentally ill, etc.) try to sue the President of the United States every day for various reasons?

125

A question for Athiests

by EndofMysteries in

i really do not understand how any can be athiests from thinking real hard about it.

how can you think everything on this earth just happened?.

from my understanding, to be athiest, this is pretty much how it goes.

startingover

Night Owl,

How about you learn what the word "theory" means to scientists. That might be a good place to start educating yourself.

52

Watchtower Dishonesty

by Vanderhoven7 in

jw
friends

just re-discovered this gem:.

"it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.

older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.

startingover

Thanks for the research.

33

A sure sign the End is Near....

by King Solomon in

the end of the month, that is, and someone apparently needs to get their hours in.... this resourceful jw (in the left side of the photo) set up shop for a few hours outside a local starbucks, with a wt and awake laid out on a table.

and i i don't think he talked to anyone the whole time he was out there (a few hours).. sure beats all that walking from door-to-door, which would likely result in a bunch of not-at-homes on a weekday: most people are at work.. (i approached him when entering, and asked him about the parable of faithful and "discreet" slave, and asked him what he thought the difference was between a parable and prophecy.

after getting a non-answer (that basically meant he didn't know), i wished him a good morning and went on my way.... .

startingover

Check out this propaganda piece http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/americas/united-states/video-clip-witnesses-manhattan/ I hope this link is clickable

83

The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

startingover

Sab,

I don't agree with most of your thinking, but I think you are right on this time.

49

Would You Listen To A Prayer From A JW And Say Amen If They Said A Prayer In Your Presence?

by minimus in

jw
friends

my mom has had visits from various jws and they have asked her if they could say a prayer before they left.

i respectfully listened to the prayers while i was visiting and might silently say amen if i felt the prayer was appropriate for my mom.. i'm just curious, how would you handle this type of situation?.

startingover

I act the same way JW's do when they are in a situation where they have to listen to a non JW's prayer.

59

Surprise Elder's Visit-FAIL

by iclone in

jw
friends

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startingover

Gotta bookmark this one

51

I want to release the motherload

by Anony Mous in

i have collected and assembled hundreds of letters, documents, publications, personal communications, e-mails from the branch etc.

etc.. my original intent was to make some type of searchable database but my time has been taken over by more important things in life for me.

i don't care about the jw's all that much anymore and who or what gets what information i don't really care.

startingover

All your work will be appreciated!

15

WT Indulging In Nostalgia, Soliciting Memorabilia; What's Up?

by Room 215 in

you may have notice in a recent kool-aid watchtower, the announcement of its creation at headquarters of an archive of photos, objects, memorabilia, etc.

i noticed that the lavishly upgraded assembly hall in buckingham, pa. now display in the lobby, glass cases with all sort of such objects.

it wasn't long ago when they disparaged nostalgia as the preoccupation of spritually bankrupted wordlings who, bereft of any hope for the future, pitiably cling to memories of the "good old days"..... what's up with jehovah's "forward looking" people??

startingover

Good catch SBF! Over 7 years? I think you are on to something.

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WT Indulging In Nostalgia, Soliciting Memorabilia; What's Up?

by Room 215 in

you may have notice in a recent kool-aid watchtower, the announcement of its creation at headquarters of an archive of photos, objects, memorabilia, etc.

i noticed that the lavishly upgraded assembly hall in buckingham, pa. now display in the lobby, glass cases with all sort of such objects.

it wasn't long ago when they disparaged nostalgia as the preoccupation of spritually bankrupted wordlings who, bereft of any hope for the future, pitiably cling to memories of the "good old days"..... what's up with jehovah's "forward looking" people??

startingover

Interesting Sir82, I tend to agree with you.

or maybe they found out what this stuff sells for on EBay and are going to set up their own store.