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  Your final WTF? Moment!

  by restrangled in

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  it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.

  i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.

  i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!

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  When I was an MS, we were invited to a special meeting just for MS' at the assembly hall. Pass required to get in, made us feel real important. Sat there all day waiting to hear something I had never heard before, but it didn't happen. It was nothing more than another assembly day. Then at the end, another MS, who appeared to be a brown-noser who someone was promoting, got up and read a thank you letter to the GB, praising them for all this fine spiritual food. It went on and on, and I immediately wondered who wrote that letter. At first I thought the brown noser did, but there was no time. I asked around, and no one could give me an answer. I came to the conclusion it was written by the GB praising themselves.

  Not too long after that, at a CA, the DO said that if a recommendation for an appointment was sent to NY don't think that Holy Spirit will reject it.

  That was the beginning of the end, but finding out about 607, reading C of C and then seeing the UN fiasco develop finished me off.
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  We love to be dazzled by the bullshit: The Magic of the Watch Tower Society

  by Terry in

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  there is an implicit pact between the magician and the audience.. .

  i should now like to discuss this pact and use the bond between performer and audience as the premise of something else i will reveal at the end.. .

  shall we continue?.

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  Concerning your rule of thumb number 5, it's a little difficult to do that when a person thinks they are going to live forever in a paradise and what you have to offer is that this life is all there is.
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  Great campagne in Portugal (ex-JW)

  by TJ Curioso in

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  i like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in portugal (ex-jw).

  we create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in portugal.

  some individuals were also covered in this campaign.. the title of the pamphlet is: "when will the kingdom arrive?".

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  startingover

  This is probably the best I've seen for sharing that info. I think the average JW would think it was something from mother and would get to the next to last paragraph before the apostate buzzer went off. I had an amusing thought, at least to me, about there being no references for the info following the dates. I think if there were references, it would set off the alarm right away. Since they are very used to not having info referenced, they may gobble it right up. I would hope that all the info is 100% correct. If there is one word misplaced the whole thing becomes a lie.

  Someone should print up a stack of these and secretly slip them into the trolley cart.

  Thanks for all the work and for starting this thread.
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  The Unwitness has a positive experience Sat. 11am at McDonalds

  by RayPublisher in

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  interview with joel the unwitness:.

  http://youtu.be/bpwylueul44.

  an outstanding experience of unwitnessing occurs when a former jw happens to find himself at a mcdonalds around 11am on a saturday.... does pandemonium ensue?

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  JW's have lots of urban legends, and I want to make sure an ex-JW one doesn't get started here. Eric, I guess you've forgotten that the "Witness" at the funeral who came up and said "Hi Ray" was me. I already knew you were coming with Greybeard and when you sat down near the front with your shaved head and goatee and then were standing by Greybeard afterwards, I thought it novel to address you as Ray.

  Not a big deal, but hopefully you can see my intentions in correcting this. This video was a very good experience on it's own. It does make one wonder how someone can know all those facts and still be involved.
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  The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)

  by LostGeneration in

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  i've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.

  several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.

  oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.

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  I think many JW's consider their work with the RBC to be their donation. I think there will be a decrease in the building and remodeling with the new arrangement, but if these JW's are used to donating only their time, it will be hard to get them to start donating cash.
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  Missing my Mom

  by exwhyzee in

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  she and my dad brought us to the u.s. from ireland in hopes of giving the 4 of us kids a better life with more opportunities.. mom went to school in her village where her mother (my grandmother) was the teacher and the bible was part of the curriculum.

  they even used the name jehovah.

  her father was a plymouth brethern (think amish or quaker) who was shunned for the rest of his life for marrying my grandmother who wasn't "in the lord"...she belonged to church of ireland.. when the witnesses came to the door after we arrived in the u.s, mom was a shoe-in candidate for their recruitment.

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  Thanks for sharing your story, when I met you I heard the story about your sons but not about your parents. Hearing your mother's background really did make her a shoe in. I recently discovered that I have a history of family members who came to this country being outcasts from their religious upbringing too and got involved as your mother did.
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  Did Any Atheist/Agnostic Revert Back to Their Former Beliefs?

  by Space Madness in

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  are their any former atheist/agnostic on here who reverted to christianity or a belief in god.

  i became an atheist back in july and it was the most unfulfilling depressive period of my life.

  i'm now starting to rebuild my relationship with god and i'm already starting to feel a lot better.

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  Regarding the OP, when I figured out my birth religion was faulty, I started looking into other beliefs, and next god came under scrutiny. When I could not find the necessary evidence, letting go of beliefs in the supernatural was the most liberating feeling I have ever experienced. Unlike you, it got rid of my depression. Guess I don't have a "god gene", my life is so much better without it.
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  WT asking for $$ in 1918

  by startingover in

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  i remember a couple of times in the past when publishers were given slips to fill out asking for an amount that could be contributed on a regular basis.

  i had no idea it went back this far.

  wonder if this started when rutherford got control.

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  Growing up as a JW and always hearing how different we were from the other churches that passed the plate, it's a bit surprising to me to find this.
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  WT asking for $$ in 1918

  by startingover in

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  i remember a couple of times in the past when publishers were given slips to fill out asking for an amount that could be contributed on a regular basis.

  i had no idea it went back this far.

  wonder if this started when rutherford got control.

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  I remember a couple of times in the past when publishers were given slips to fill out asking for an amount that could be contributed on a regular basis. I had no idea it went back this far. Wonder if this started when Rutherford got control. It's interesting how the legal aspects of this request are handled. When this was filled out the person was making $1.87/week.

  http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/xrikester/1918WT.jpg
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  OK..Seriously..Has GOD ever answered your prayers????

  by DATA-DOG in

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  look...i am not an atheist.

  even so, i have never had one prayer answered my entire life.

  the only thing that would even come close was learning ttatt.

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  Could this be what is really happening? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaZDcS-rMf4