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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Thanks for that GrreatTeacher! I agree with everything you said.

  Believer, can you give me a search phrase to all those books you speak of? I haven't been able to find anything but things I would consider biased.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, you said: The saddest thing to me about atheism is the way the proponents resign themselves to the same destiny as the unreasoning animals. They don’t seem to understand that man is different for a reason. We start as animals, but that is only the beginning of the journey of life. They are choosing to get off the ride before they even get to the first turn.

  I disagree, man is not different. Humans may be advanced, but in the end they all die just like the animals. Any belief beyond that has never been proved and IMO is just a fantasy. I realize some need that to get through life, but many of us don't. I suggest you have the "god gene". You have that need and will do anything to fulfill it.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, I want to respond to my question about being a convert or a born in. A majority of born in's when they figure out the"truth about the truth", are very skeptical and atheism is what results. Converts on the other hand revert back to their previous belief system.

  Here's a video which is directed right at you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_TrvIIcBY
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, you replied to Cofty:

  There are no books that tell us anything at all about Jesus outside the NT.

  You haven't looked far enough. There are dozens, maybe even hundreds.

  He's probably sleeping now, but you are now going to have to prove that.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Just curious Believer, were you a convert or a born-in JW?
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  Now this is weird, ever heard of the "Mandela Effect" ??? What if... ?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now this is weird, ever heard of the "mandela effect" ???

  i know how crazy it sounds but i got to tell you, this article about the governing body finally admitting the "faithful slave" was not divinely appointed by jesus in 1919 was epic to me.

  like a mandela effect feeling.

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  The big deal in 13 was that the GB alone took over the role of the FD&S excluding the rest of the remnant. The appointment over the belongings part is confusing to me, just like the claim that the Evil Slave has not arrived yet. Sometimes I think they are just trying to make it all confusing so they can eventually discard all the 607 nonsense and along with that 1914,.
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  I can hear Bro. Brown saying that now.

  I wonder if the authorities that showed up at Jonestown felt the same way as this policeman.
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  New facts from germany

  by crazy_flickering_light in

  1. watchtower
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  maybe some of you interested in this:.

  between 11/2015 and 05/2016 they merged in germany 48 congs into 24 congs.

  in this time they build 16 language-groups and 3 sign-language-groups.

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  How many deaf people are there? In my experience there are a bunch of bored JW's trying to show off their spirituality who comprise these groups with on deaf person in the group.
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  JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here..  it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

  the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

  then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

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  I am certain after watching this I see how these men climb the ladder. His comments about Splane were disgusting to me. What a brown noser.
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  Concerning the "Hope" video, I will say it's very professional. But watching as the story played out, I was expecting the wayward brother to return as a prodigal somehow, and that did not happen. In fact, it seemed to me that what he did in leaving at a young age for reasons that made sense to him and pursuing a career was not condemned at all and cast with a negative light like it usually is. The fact he give his brother money indicated he was doing well unlike his factory working brother who was more concerned about spirituality, I can see young ones who may be on the fence thinking that way already picking up on that.

  Also, does anyone else find it unusual to hear the term "need-greaters" used in something official like this?