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  Video: Dear Believer, Why Do You Believe?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was asked to view the video “dear believer, why do you believe?” i said i would and i would publish my comments about it.

  so here are my comments.

  after my post, i hope other believers will post theirs comments about it.

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  Some have a need to believe in god and others don't. Some will take the above video as absolute proof, others won't. After reading this, I don't believe any of it.

  http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/interviews/a23248/the-prophet/
  
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  What happened to Marvin Schilmer and his Blog against the JW's?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspoturl=https://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/07/complete-donation-what-happened.html.

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  Very interesting results when googling "Marvin Shilmer". JWFacts says connects the blog with AJWRB. Then there is this: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/280266/whatever-happened-marvin-shilmer?page=1&size=10
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  Video: Dear Believer, Why Do You Believe?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was asked to view the video “dear believer, why do you believe?” i said i would and i would publish my comments about it.

  so here are my comments.

  after my post, i hope other believers will post theirs comments about it.

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  Believer, thanks for responding to my request. Seems to me that by your comments, you didn't get the point of the video. When you talk about god it seems you are still speaking about the bible god as if that's the only one that exists.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  The Dear Believer I shared early on has again been ignored by believers. I think it really lays out the problem. I'm sure all believers on here believe in the Bible God. I just wonder how many of you have taken time to check out where that god came from.

  Myself, I'm not going to say there wasn't someone or something that started it, but I will say this. I am absolutely sure it was not the Bible god.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  The ridicule card, the card never played by atheists.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Thanks for that GrreatTeacher! I agree with everything you said.

  Believer, can you give me a search phrase to all those books you speak of? I haven't been able to find anything but things I would consider biased.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, you said: The saddest thing to me about atheism is the way the proponents resign themselves to the same destiny as the unreasoning animals. They don’t seem to understand that man is different for a reason. We start as animals, but that is only the beginning of the journey of life. They are choosing to get off the ride before they even get to the first turn.

  I disagree, man is not different. Humans may be advanced, but in the end they all die just like the animals. Any belief beyond that has never been proved and IMO is just a fantasy. I realize some need that to get through life, but many of us don't. I suggest you have the "god gene". You have that need and will do anything to fulfill it.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, I want to respond to my question about being a convert or a born in. A majority of born in's when they figure out the"truth about the truth", are very skeptical and atheism is what results. Converts on the other hand revert back to their previous belief system.

  Here's a video which is directed right at you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl_TrvIIcBY
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer, you replied to Cofty:

  There are no books that tell us anything at all about Jesus outside the NT.

  You haven't looked far enough. There are dozens, maybe even hundreds.

  He's probably sleeping now, but you are now going to have to prove that.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Just curious Believer, were you a convert or a born-in JW?