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  Do you have a Watchtower fantasy?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  picture yourself, it's the last day of a three day district assembly.

  your sitting in a near full to capacity football stadium.

  people are eagerly looking forward to the final talk.

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  startingover

  Littletoe used to post here frequently. See his story here: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/littletoe/Profile.html
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  Question about visiting bethel ... akward moment at the end

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there a couple of ex-bethelites here, and a lot of people from the greater ny area who have probably visited the bethel in brooklyn and patterson many times, maybe they can shed some light into this curious question we (my wife and me) have for awhile.. so a couple of years ago, we happaned to be in the states and also went to visit the bethels in brooklyn and patterson.

  we had the full package, what i mean is, not only we took the tour, but we also had someone to invite us for lunch.

  while we wanted to enjoy our stay there, there was always a weird feeling being there.

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  I remember getting a yearbook in the mail before they were released from a Bethelite friend. I now think that was a allowed and the postage paid for by the org in an effort to get the Bethelite some extra funds via a green handshake. I'm sure this would be denied by the Bethelite. Anyone who served in Bethel care to comment on this?
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  "If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

  this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

  i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

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  I vocalized this feeling many times as a born in with my history reaching back to 1910. I now realize i was a closet atheist for most of my life. Having conversations with my wife about it, she would say that I never developed a personal relationship with Jehovah. I didn't have a clue what that meant. Now I know why.
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  It Is With the Heaviest of Hearts...

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

  it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.

  ..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

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  Thanks for reminding me of this song. I think Long Road out of Eden is their best album, and this song takes on so much more meaning now that he is gone.

  Hey Clambake, that was really an uncalled for observation right now. You might not like them but others including myself do.
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  ELDERS, ha ha ha ha....!!!!!

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so as many know....ive been df'd goin on 19 years already.

  i drive pops to meetings, and drop him off on saturdays for fs.. well yesterday, the elders ask to speak to me, and tell me that if i plan on returning to jehovah, i had better shave my beard off..

  omg!!!!!!

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  It's amazing the power these guys think they have. Great response!
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  JW Real Estate Owned

  by badcompany in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just spoke to my dad who's been an elder since ~'72 and still is.

  he told me about a meeting he just had about kh annual maintenance.

  whoever led the meeting (not sure who) announced the world leaders in re locations owned:.

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  It's interesting how things have changed. Growing up the Catholics were condemned as false religion because of all the property they owned.
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  Weldon Howze dies in California

  by SadElder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us knew or knew of weldon howze.

  weldon was a good friend for more than 40 years, even after my fade from the dubs.

  this came to my in box today.. to all of weldons friends and family,.

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  I never knew Weldon, but my dad was on his email list. I sent Weldon and email telling him of my father's passing and then I was on his list. It's interesting to read all the comments above from those that knew him. Thanks for posting the link.
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  WT claims to have completed "Peak Construction Phase of New World Headquarters"

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://web.archive.org/web/20151210004420/http://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/united-states/jw-headquarters-peak-construction/.

  http://imgur.com/a/dbsqt.

  are they just moving the goal posts now that 2016 is almost upon us?.

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  Now wait a minute. I thought the watchtower logo was a thing of the past, not to be put on Kingdom Halls. But it's OK there?
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  Watchtower properties for sale website

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.

  https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.

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  startingover

  Here is the next step http://www.deserettrust.com/realestate.html
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  Watchtower properties for sale website

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.

  https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.

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  It appears there is only one property, the empty lot at 85 Jay St. Is that what everyone else sees?