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  IS the NWT really the WT Bible?

  by Bleep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondered how many people this this is all true.

  feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.

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  StinkyPantz

  Why does Bleep post these threads argumentatively and not refute his claims?
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  Discussion forum for anything NOT JW related

  by Bleep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  discussion forum for anything not jw related.

  ... apostates are welcome !.

  bla bla bla sin oh yes!

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  StinkyPantz

  First of all Bleep, have you ever heard of a spell checker? People might, and I emphasize MIGHT take you more seriously if your spelling and grammar were a tad bit better.

  Second, if you find us apostates SO utterly repulsive, why must you keep posting your idiocy here on a primarily "apostate" site?

  Third, the NWT was NOT the first modern American English bible. Where are you getting this BS and why aren't you backing up any of your statements? Ex. American Standard Version: 1901

  Fourth, we can all agree that the Watchtower Society has good aspects. We use this forum as a support group to heal from the bad aspects of the organization.

  Fifth, how old are you? If you tell me you're 12 I would understand you so much better. Please tell me you're 12. . .

  Edited by - StinkyPantz on 31 July 2002 2:38:0
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  I really need your advice on this!

  by sunshineToo in

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  if your boyfriend refuses to go to college, what do you do?.

  for his job, he really needs a college degree.

  but he said that there is something about "being at school".

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  StinkyPantz

  I think that you are overreacting big time! My husband felt the same way but after a while he realized that he needed to go back to school, no pressure from me. BTW, being a good husband and father doesn't require a college education. I know of many people without degrees who support their families very nicely. Why would you think it's psychological? Maybe it's very plain and simple: HE DOESN'T LIKE SCHOOL. Geez!

  Edited by - StinkyPantz on 31 July 2002 2:4:26
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  Famous People Who've Died In Plane Crashes

  by Dutchie in

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  i'm in the process of making plans for my yearly vacation and although i am not really afraid to fly, i must admit to being a little .

  apprehensive.

  anyway, it seems to me that if i were a famous person i would be even more apprehensive because so many of them .

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  StinkyPantz

  Otis Redding

  Jim Croce

  Amelia Earhart (? maybe, maybe not ?)

  Edited by - StinkyPantz on 30 July 2002 20:25:27
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  A quiz: name the following movies....

  by Preston in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  below are some scenes from various films.

  name the movies that contain these scenes.

  btw, it's a very tough quiz .

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  StinkyPantz

  Let me guess:

  17. Idle Hands

  25. Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

  28. E.T.
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  Revealing ID safe here?

  by happysunshine in

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  is it safe to reveal your identity, location, personal details, etc.

  on this site?

  or are there any sickos prowling around?

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  StinkyPantz

  I personally think that if you get to know a person via this site it is okay to give out personal information. I have.
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  IS the NWT really the WT Bible?

  by Bleep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondered how many people this this is all true.

  feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.

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  StinkyPantz

  Thanks JanH I didn't realize the inaccuracy, but that's why I put the link so that people didn't think that that was my reasearch. Thanks.
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  Where are the Feminine women?

  by 4skins in

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  some months ago i took my annual vacation to the land of kangaroos--you know--where men are men and sheep are skittish?

  as a social commentator i have a vested interest observing cultural changes and trends, etc.

  in the professions and trades in oz the genders dress as androgynous as their counterparts in the us.

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  StinkyPantz

  Wow, I hadn't been reading this thread because I thought I be offended but it's funny!
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  Abortion VS Child Molestation

  by StinkyPantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just wanted to know what others thought about this archbishop's comment.

  he said that abortion was a bigger sin than child molestation.

  do you agree or disagree and why?

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  StinkyPantz

  Hey Dia, thanks for letting us know how stupid we are! I always appreciate those types of comments.

  I was only asking opinions (how dare I) not absolute answers! But thanks for your 2 cents, even if it isn't worth much.

  Edited by - StinkyPantz on 29 July 2002 19:54:10
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  IS the NWT really the WT Bible?

  by Bleep in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondered how many people this this is all true.

  feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.

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  StinkyPantz

  I personally think this version is easier to understand than say the King James version, but since I haven't actually studied Greek, and Hebrew I can't say how accurate it is.

  What leading Greek scholars say about the NWT:

  -Dr. Bruce M. Metzger , professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation," "Erroneous" and "pernicious" "reprehensible" "If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

  -Dr. William Barclay , a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

  -British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated."

  -Dr. Julius Mantey , author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation." "Obsolete and incorrect." "It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god.'"

  -"I have never read any New Testament so badly translated as The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Greek Scriptures.... it is a distortion of the New Testament. The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137)

  The NWT translators were: Nathan Knorr, Albert Schroeder, George Gangas, Fred Franz, M. Henschel

  • "Fred Franz however, was the only one with sufficient knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self-taught in Hebrew." ["Crisis of Conscience"; by Raymond Franz; Commentary Press, Atlanta; 1983 edition; footnote 15; page 50.]
  • Four out of the five men on the committee had no Hebrew or Greek training at all. They had only a high school education. Franz studied Greek for two years at the University of Cincinnati, but dropped out after his sophomore year. When asked in a Scotland courtroom if he could translate Genesis 2:4 into Hebrew, Franz replied that he could not. The truth is that Franz was unable to translate Hebrew or Greek.
  • What we are left with is a very inexperienced translating committee that twisted Scripture to make it fit the Society's doctrine.

  http://www.bible.ca/Jw-NWT.htm