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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

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  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  I feel alone too, if that helps. But everything will be alright.

  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

  Romans 8:28
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  Why aren't you an Atheist?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

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  long time lurker, first time poster.. .

  i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.

  over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.

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  As he thus made his defense, Festus said with a loud voice, "Paul, you are crazy! Your great learning is driving you insane!" - Acts 26:24
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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  Hi Kate,

  The JWs are generally advised against going through these forums and sites for fear of being corrupted by 'apostate' leanings. Better safe than never. And so if you want to get to know them, you must do so at the Kingdom halls. They are a good bunch of people. But the problem is not the regular JWs themselves, the problem is who they follow and the concept formulated a long time ago that's being followed. The problem is at its core in Brooklyn, their governing body. They are all following them unquestionably (maybe as blindly as Germany to the Nazis in WW2). They regard them as having divine authority as being brothers of Christ. This claim should merit additional investigation because of its enormity, but most of them didn't do so when joining, including me.

  All the best,

  Kassad
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  Why aren't you an Atheist?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long time lurker, first time poster.. .

  i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.

  over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.

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  That's why things look so perfect. Adjustments were made, but by evolution.
  
  Hey NewChapter, you posted this 8hrs ago. i just want to answer cause i'm finding this thread/debate so much fun. i just want to point out that i don't want to quarrel, just someone who wants to voice his opinion.
  
  yes it may very well be that its all because of evolution, but then I will question how or where that life that's become so well versed in evolving came to being in the first place. how a combination of carbon and other elements suddenly sprang into activity into living beings. i believe science may come up with an answer eventually on that, but it may take its time. at the moment, scientists are still having trouble figuring out how electrons behave in the quantum level.
  
  there is an argument called Pascal's wager about this. That since God cannot be proven nor disproven that there is more to gain for a man to live as though God exists than not.
  
  And it all comes down to morality, isn't it? The right and the wrong.
  
  God/the Bible/the people who wrote the Bible spelled out moral principles that man has always known in his heart but in the past, there's no formality or obligation to do it. The question is maybe whether or not God exists, but whether or not we will be still be moral people, looking not to harm our neighbor, even without an all power entity looking on our shoulders. If someone is an atheist BUT a moral man nevertheless, then he is soooo much better than a religious one that is a hypocrite.

  I remember Ricky Gervais twit the other day that goes,

  "Dear religion,

  This week I safely dropped a man from space while you shot a child in the head for wanting to go to school.

  Yours,

  Science."

  With events like this and so many countless ones that have occurred in history, I can totally understand why there are so many atheists. But I think these acts of the Taliban may for them be a religious act, but NOT a moral one. Once again legalism makes religious people crazy.
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  Thinking of becoming a JW.

  by Kate82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi,.

  i am new to here so please be bear with me.. i have always believed in god, but was never baptised, my parents wanted me to make up my own mind religon wise.. i am thinking of becoming a jw and am just needing some advice on how to do this, bible study and jw beliefs.

  also do jw say grace and how.. i am greatful of any help.. thanks.

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  hi kate, i think we have the same disposition. i can relate to you. i'm by nature a shy person too and that's exactly how they found me. i am still a jw, but now inactive. i think the jws are a nice bunch of normal people like us and that they are really seeking God. but they are victims. for me personally, i think the problem with this organization is the foundation in which it was built, the so called "faithful and discreet slave" doctrine. i suggest you read crisis of conscience by raymond franz to weigh in your decision. the author i think is honest in relating his experiences with the organization but leaves the decision of whether to join, or leave, or stay to each one. because most of the times, its not an easy decision. there are things that I think the JWs got right, and there are things that they got wrong. just like in every other denomination of christianity.
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  Why aren't you an Atheist?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long time lurker, first time poster.. .

  i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.

  over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.

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  just my opinion: there are too much coincidence...

  just take earth for example, it has just the right position in the solar system. the solar system has just the right position in the milky way. and that's just the beginning.

  

  i think atheists have been here since the time of old. its been mentioned in Psalms 14:1.
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  My first own thread on here. Woken up and still in :(

  by Gefangene in

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  i have been around in this forum a lot but haven't written much yet.. also i had a more or less rude awakening when i realized that the religion i grew up with, the religion i sacrificed a lot for and considered to be the 'truth' is nothing but mere bs.

  it's quite a brick to digest.. my parents both are jws, elder and pioneer.

  very good people but also very brainwashed.

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  newbie here - i need advice

  by kassad84 in

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  hello, i've been lurking in this forums for a while but its only now that i've created an account.

  i'm an inactive jw, been in and out sporidically these past few years, but its only these recent months after reading crisis of conscience and christian freedom that i think i will never go back there again.. the reason i've been inactive primarily is because i have issues regarding masturbation and porn.

  my conscience cannot allow to continue preaching while i continously being overcome by these habits myself.

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  thanks guys. appreciate the time you've taken to share your thoughts on this...
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  newbie here - i need advice

  by kassad84 in

  1. jw
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  hello, i've been lurking in this forums for a while but its only now that i've created an account.

  i'm an inactive jw, been in and out sporidically these past few years, but its only these recent months after reading crisis of conscience and christian freedom that i think i will never go back there again.. the reason i've been inactive primarily is because i have issues regarding masturbation and porn.

  my conscience cannot allow to continue preaching while i continously being overcome by these habits myself.

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  hey guys, i really appreciate your answers, i am reading and considering them very closely. it gives me a sense of comfort to find that there are still those that doesn't stop showing empathy. thanks guys.
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  newbie here - i need advice

  by kassad84 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i've been lurking in this forums for a while but its only now that i've created an account.

  i'm an inactive jw, been in and out sporidically these past few years, but its only these recent months after reading crisis of conscience and christian freedom that i think i will never go back there again.. the reason i've been inactive primarily is because i have issues regarding masturbation and porn.

  my conscience cannot allow to continue preaching while i continously being overcome by these habits myself.

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  kassad84

  hello, i've been lurking in this forums for a while but its only now that i've created an account. i'm an inactive JW, been in and out sporidically these past few years, but its only these recent months after reading crisis of conscience and christian freedom that i think i will never go back there again.

  the reason i've been inactive primarily is because i have issues regarding masturbation and porn. my conscience cannot allow to continue preaching while i continously being overcome by these habits myself. in my opinion, the thing with the watchtower is that they constantly force this preaching work to all, eclipsing everything else including displaying more important things like love, compassion, understanding. i sincerely think that preaching is not the most important thing in christianity, but it is the by-product once you start to conquer you own demons and do these christian things before you even preach it to others. i feel that almost shove the preaching work into people's throats at the cost of people becoming hypocrites.

  and then i got a hold of the two books by brother ray franz...

  i need help guys, now that i am never going back, i just feel. so. alone. i feel so lonely. and i think i am at a worse condition than when i was before. im at the mercy of this addiction i can't seem to defeat. Jehovah seems far. Jesus seems far. i am at the mercy of myself. back in the kingdom hall i might have derive inspiration from others, now i'm not able to do that. despite what the watchtower is doing, all the regular JWs i know are good people. at least people trying their best to be good. they are just victims like us. In the "outside", seems like people everywhere doesn't care much about morality.

  but anyways, i am not sure if you also have this kind of problem. i'm wondering if you have any advice that could help on how to overcome it? The elders and the CO in my cong. just offered the same prescription. In addition to reading the Bible: go out and preach. Perhaps they are right? Maybe not.
  
  I hate myself. If there is a hell, this is it. There's so much bliss in death. But maybe even in death, there is God's mercy. Shame is all i see and feel now.