hi, new here but have been lurking for a while.
some background first, i am from the uk, 3rd gen born in, dad, grandad elders etc.
17 years ago i left, no df or da just left, 18 years old and alone but i did it and have had no regrets.
Sometimes I want to just ring the neck of some of my stupid JW family but I know from experience that will only harden their conviction that they have "the truth."
You need to drop truth bombs on them. In general conversation ask them if they saw Geoffy Jackson and what they think about the overlapping generation theory. I bet you they can't exSPLANE it. lololololol
mark 4:22. for there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing is carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.. to bad the watchtower bible and cult society of pa doesn't realize this prophecy applies to them along with a hundred other prophecies that point to the evil slave, forked tongue, making failed predictions and being proven false.
so many come to mind.
we need to share this with everyone and turn the bible on them.
Yup. The JW cult is just another money making, mind controlling cult that loves to call everyone else as the wicked and evil ones.
"they just didn't become false prophets, they became commercialized false prophets.
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Exactly.
crowd looking like they're doing the heil hitler salute to trump when he asks for a pledge and swear their support while calling for broadening torture laws.
trump asks backers to swear their support, vows to broaden torture laws.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/05/politics/donald-trump-florida-pledge-torture/.
All these nasty comments and lies about Trump give me more proof that Trump is the right choice. Instead of attacking his policies, they attack with ad hominem attacks.
The MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and despite all the lies of Trump being racist, his policy is the best I have seen from anyone. Here are just a few points that he gets on point.
End welfare abuse. Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S.
Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.
Put American Workers First
Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class.
Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of
Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high
school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed
in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the
percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not
experienced in generations.
End birthright citizenship. This remains the biggest magnet for illegal immigration. By a 2:1 margin, voters say it’s the wrong policy, including Harry Reid who said “no sane country” would give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.
Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa. Millions of people come to the United States on temporary visas but refuse to leave, without consequence. This is a threat to national security. Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires should be subject to criminal penalties; this will also help give local jurisdictions the power to hold visa overstays until federal authorities arrive. Completion of a visa tracking system – required by law but blocked by lobbyists – will be necessary as well.
Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.
Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans.
Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States
America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The following steps will return to the American people the safety of their laws, which politicians have stolen from them.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
This is common sense people. Not hate or bigotry. We won't have a country to care about if we continue down this same path we have. That is all for now.
mark 4:22. for there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing is carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.. to bad the watchtower bible and cult society of pa doesn't realize this prophecy applies to them along with a hundred other prophecies that point to the evil slave, forked tongue, making failed predictions and being proven false.
so many come to mind.
we need to share this with everyone and turn the bible on them.
Mark 4:22
For there is nothing hidden that will not be exposed; nothing is carefully concealed that will not come out in the open.
To bad the Watchtower Bible and Cult Society of PA doesn't realize this prophecy applies to them along with a hundred other prophecies that point to the evil slave, forked tongue, making failed predictions and being proven false. So many come to mind.
We need to share this with everyone and turn the Bible on them. My colleague at work is slowly waking up. I've been using logic and truth on her and she can no longer deny it. Everyday I see her I ask her questions and she knows the answer. Now it is up to her to come out and break free.
only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
Wow again! This could be the first thread with over 100 likes!
But I just want to congratulate you and your husband on your awakening. I almost cried reading this and it reminded me of a dear sister in my hall and her inspirational story. So many marriages were ruined because of this cult but eventually thanks to the internet and the freedom of information people can learn the truth about anything.
an interesting talk on the inherent history of jewish and christian beliefs.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_pb8pkews8.
i'm trying to get a jump ahead for my colleague.
i am making progress though and she is now willing to listen to logic.
logic and reasoning is like kryptonite to jw's.
hi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.
i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.
can someone help me find that video?
i just "da'd" friday.
i've been posting on here for years but do to anonymity, i had to start with a new account.
would love to connect with anyone that i may know.
there is a thread that i'm really enjoying discussing the consolidation of congregations into existing kingdom halls.
i'm realizing that the only threads that have spoken of building were related to branch offices.
we know the wts's consolidations and reopening a are a shell game of sorts but i'm wondering... is anyone seeing an increase in kingdom halls in their part of the world?
I'm sorry to barge in on your conversation but I only want to say that in my current hall there has not been any growth in the past 2-3 years. I'm located in NY. Any newly interested persons simply replace the ones like myself who wake up and leave. And if the quality of the newly interested ones is any indication of what the future of the JW organization will be then I can say it doesn't look good. We had 6 new publishers over the past year and I'm not exaggerating when I say they are illiterate.
In my previous hall where I grew up in Florida there were two kingdom halls built on one lot because back in the early 2000's they were growing. There too the growth has stalled and slowly people are waking up and walking out. David Splane's explanation of the overlapping generations did it for me and both my sisters. I remember hearing something about it back in 2011 but I didn't even know it was a new teaching at the time. Only until the JW Broadcasting video of David Splane last year did I fully understand how ridiculous this new teaching is and that it has nothing to do with the Bible or God. It's nothing but another attempt to cover up their failure. But worse still is because of this new teaching, I was hungry for knowledge which lead me to research everything. I came to the conclusion that this is not God's organization. I was misled for 29 years.
