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  The truth about Hispanic JWs in the United States

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  i will like to share some facts about the spanish congregations in usa.

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  Hecce

  This is a quote from the Golden Age repeated several times here:

  1927 -"Spaniards .. and other backward races [came to settle in America under the influence of Rome]" {G AGE Nov 30 1927 141}
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Hecce

  A correction, the following were only WT Offices and not Branches: Armenia, Belarus, Malta, Nepal and Sudan.

  Sorry
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Hecce

  TS

  Spain is in guarded condition, according to the locals the WT is having a tought time finding a suitable buyer.

  Argentina was just added to the watch list.

  Thanks
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Hecce

  Phizzy

  Your are correct.

  Comparing the list to the 2000 yb, I don't see listed: Antigua, Armenia, Belarus, Lithuania, Malta, Nepal, Sudan and Turkey. Maybe they were closed before that year, seem to remember Malta as a Branch.

  Let me see if my compadre sheds more light in this issue.

  Thanks
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Hecce

  Very Odd:

  2013 yb: 96 Branches

  1999 yb: 109 Branches

  After 41 closings.

  ???????
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Hecce

  One of the friends at EXTJ forum provided this list of WT branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are Spain and Argentina. Posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.

  Thanks for reading

  1) Alaska

  2) Antigua
  3) Armenia
  4) Austria
  5 ) Bahamas
  6) Belize
  7) Belarus
  8) Czech Republic
  9) Cyprus
  10) Costa Rica
  11) Guadalupe
  12) Guinea , Africa
  13) French Guiana
  14) Guyana
  15) Hawaii
  16) Guatemala
  17) El Salvador
  18 ) Estonia
  19) Honduras
  20 ) Ireland
  21 ) Israel
  22) Iceland
  23 ) Latvia
  24 ) Lithuania
  25 ) Luxembourg
  26 ) Malaysia
  27 ) Malta
  28) Martinique
  29) Nepal
  30) Nicaragua
  31 ) Norway
  32) New Zealand
  33) Panama
  34 ) Puerto Rico
  35) Samoa
  36 ) Sudan
  37) Sweden
  38 ) Switzerland
  39 ) Togo
  40 ) Turkey
  41 ) Uruguay
  42 ) Jamaica (sale )
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  When selling was preaching ...

  by Hecce in

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  i am going way, way back.

  history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..

  the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.

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  I don’t know if this is truth or not but I have been told that they were not so much afraid of the income tax but rather of the sales tax that was going to be due with the placements or sales.

  If I recall correctly the whole thing started as a State case in California over sales taxes due on the publications.

  I agree that they lost their main source of revenue due to this decision.

  Just my recollection.
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  When selling was preaching ...

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am going way, way back.

  history reveals that in the beginning the wt was just a publishing house, selling books and magazines; over the years it evolved into what it is today..

  the placement of the original publications was mostly done thru sales people masquerading as preachers.

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  Hecce

  Once again, thanks for the memories.

  The CO was an auditor, one of his main functions was to check the books and magazines accounts. Remittances were sent promptly at the end of the month and if the Congregation was late, after certain time the supplies were cut off.

  Those were the days.
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  Just wanting clarification on the RBC

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been reading threads about how the rbc operates, so i sort of have a fair idea of what the answers will be.

  but i would like to have a more direct answer to my questions.. where do the orders come from that a hall is in need of a remodel, or a new one to be built.. can the elders refuse a remodel or quickly built.. out side contractors are only allowed with rbc approval.

  what are the consequences if say a kh needed a new roof, and secular contractor was hired.. is it a case that orders a given that a hall needs a remodel, and that the rbc will have total control, and look out for who ever gets in the way, and elders just have to simply comply.. this is the question i most want answered.

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  Agree with the initial questioner and can say by personal experience that the RBC can do whatever and whenever they want . Is a maffia, Elders have to play by their rules or else.

  No invoices, receipts, financial proposals, nothing, just work and pay.

  I have the feeling that the Congregations are being charged high commercial prices even with the brothers doing free labor.
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  The truth about Hispanic JWs in the United States

  by Hecce in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

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  i will like to share some facts about the spanish congregations in usa.

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  Hecce

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  "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock"

  Overseers are not to police the lives of the brothers,

  nor are they obligated to become acquainted with

  all the details of civil and criminal law so as to

  enforce these.

  Just as they do not check to see if

  someone's home meets every detail of the building

  code, they do not investigate in order to determine

  whether a person has satisfied every detail as to his

  legal situation in the country before allowing him

  to get baptized or to continue in the congregation.

  Baptism would not be denied such a person, but he

  would not be viewed as exemplary and would not be

  used in any responsible position in the congregation

  The same would apply to a person who uses fraudulent

  or illegal identification.

  This is a portion el the old Elder’s Book, the new one states basically the same. As you can see the illegal status of a person is not bad enough to be denied baptism, but it is bad enough for privileges in the Congregation. The person coming in will discover that after his baptism.

  ????????