Posts by Hecce

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The “boldness” of the GB

by Hecce in

this topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.

some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..

Hecce

The first time that I heard about worldly consultants was in relation to the printing paper. This is something that I learned thru the grapevine and if is not correct there are tons of ex Bethelites here to correct me.

I was told that the WT was in the habit of taking advantage of low cost offers for printing paper and buying tremendous amounts of the product, when consultants came in trying to improve their operation they called to their attention:

Capital that was invested with no return in the paper.

Spoilage, sometimes the paper reams were spoiled after many months of storage.

Space, there was a need of storage room for the paper.

The suggestion was to just buy enough paper for a short period of time and use the resources for something else.

Like I said maybe truth or maybe urban legend, if truth shows that the motivation was in this particular instance $$$$$.

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The “boldness” of the GB

by Hecce in

this topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.

some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..

Hecce

This topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.

Some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the Branches, layoff of Bethelites and Travelling Overseers, the grabbing of the Congregations funds and many more. Some of my friends tell me that basically the WT was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.

Nevertheless to put it in Hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from God” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

It seems that the announcement meeting was held yesterday at one of the local Assembly Halls and it was more than one session. From what I heard the gathering of information has been going on for some time but it looks like the elders of some of the congregations dissolved are not too happy. This could be expected and there is not much that they can do, they will get over.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

flipper

Not disputing your information, historically I have seen the WT dealing almost entirely with JP Morgan and not much with Bank of America. I am not that savvy on finances and I am pretty sure that some of our learned friends will post additional information on this.

Peace out

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

From the rumors, it was presented as using the KHs more efficiently; congregations are sized for a 75% meeting attendance. The discussion about financial factors clashes with the fact that the majority of the halls are in suburban areas, not really commercially attractive.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

Wasn't there some stuff going on around the riverside area about a year ago that sounded like the makings of something like this

I assume that both actions are related, my understanding is that some sort of surveys have been done during the last few months in order to launch this project. I will see if I can get more information from my source.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Hecce

This notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels. A friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in Southern California. The subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.

Please let me know if this is happening all over the country?

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RC 2017 Rumors

by wifibandit in

source: http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?28321-asamblea-regional-2017 (for a more literal translation) here is the gist, edited for formatting/chronological order/correct minor errors:.

regional convention 2017 rumors.

theme: the bible and the divine name.. 3 dramas and 2 dramatic bible readings.. .

Hecce

The title "Jehovah's organization behind the name" makes absolutely no sense from a linguistic standpoint. Are you sure that's the actual title? It sounds like it should be something else, like: "Jehovah's Witnesses - the organization behind the name.".

I saw this information first in the Spanish Forum, I think that what we have here is a translation from the Spanish and the titles might not be 100% accurate,

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Update: Got my Judicial Committee cancelled

by Sanchy in

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friends

original thread here.

update: so, after the meeting i had with elders a few weeks ago as outlined in my original thread, they met as a body and once again called to tell me that after considering my case they still thought a judicial committee should be held against me and asked to be there "thursday at 7:30".

all of this, i remind you, because of posting coc on facebook.

Hecce

Quite an accomplishment

Congrats

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The Biggest Mistake The GB Have Made In The Last 10 Years

by pale.emperor in

i think the single biggest mistake the governing body have made in the last 10 years has to be creating jw broadcasting and putting their gb members on there... on a weekly basis too.. when i was a kid, i had no idea who the governing body were, what their names were or what they looked like.

there was one or two long term pioneers that knew the names of two of them but that was about it.. when i was about 10yo i imagined they looked something like this:.

ahh.... those learned men with a lifetime of bible knowledge just oozing out of their very hearts.

Hecce

The word "mature" was part of the WT vocabulary and it was a goal to be reached by any sincere JW; I don't see that word repeated constantly as it was before. One of the requisites to get maturity was personal study.

The WT knows that very few current JWs are studying at all, what the WT is doing is spoon feeding them in the way that is done in modern society and the results are a new generation of "light" JWs .