My focus on this thread was So Cal, speaking with friends it seems like is happening all over. I don't know what the true intentions are but one thing that I can say is that here locally the loss of some KHs in poor neighborhoods is going to affect the most needed tremendously.
Posts by Hecce
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182Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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KH Survey forms and related docs
by StarTrekAngel inthis was somewhat discussed in another thread but i figure i can start this one for those mostly interested on the docs.
most interesting to me what the name of shawn schafer at the end of one of the letters.
(wonder if he is related to david schaffer).
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Hecce
Thanks
This information complements the other thread about the relocation plans, one thing that is obvious; this project was carefully and professionally calculated and as some of the brothers had said it has the smell of business all over.
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The “boldness” of the GB
by Hecce inthis topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.
some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..
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Hecce
It will be interesting to see the melting of the elders bodies, elders from different congregations are going to merge and in some instances you will put together people that can"t stand each other.
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The “boldness” of the GB
by Hecce inthis topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.
some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..
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Hecce
"Maybe that is the reason why Loesch is not giving them the consent to the 75 year old ceiling in the GB"
I`m missing something here ? whats that about ?I read somewhere that the GB was ready to implement a 75 year old maximum age for their members and Loesch was the only one opposing it, once again this is just grapevine info.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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Hecce
Right now is too early to comment about the impact on the flock, it hasn't been announced. From a very small sample of elder's opinions I will say that they are subdued and quiet about the arrangement.
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The “boldness” of the GB
by Hecce inthis topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.
some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..
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Hecce
Another 'bold" action is the disregard of all the teachings prior to 2000, they overlook the fact that there plenty of older JWs that remember quite well what was said, when and by whom.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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Major congregational quake in Southern California
by Hecce inthis notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
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The “boldness” of the GB
by Hecce inthis topic is related to the one about the relocation of publishers and moving and dissolving congregations.. some of the things that we are seeing now were unthinkable a few years back, examples the closing of the branches, layoff of bethelites and travelling overseers, the grabbing of the congregations funds and many more.
some of my friends tell me that basically the wt was operating with an early 20th century business model that needed a tune up and that worldly consultants are behind the changes that have been implemented.. nevertheless to put it in hollywood terms, they seem to think that they are on a “mission from god” and that they are “going where no man, has gone before”..
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Hecce
Something that is very apparent is that the GB is going ahead with their agenda without any consideration for others. I don't know if they realize that the "monster" will eventually devour them.
Maybe that is the reason why Loesch is not giving them the consent to the 75 year old ceiling in the GB; he knows that he is going to be immediately kick out and will lose all the comfort and privileged living.
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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Hecce
sp74bb
I saw this at the Spanish Forum and was sure that you were going to post it here; what this elders are doing seems to be a deviation of the normal procedure and not recommended. Please keep us informed of the developments since the case is very, very interesting.
An added suggestion, if possible post the letter here as you did at the Spanish Forum; even it it is in Spanish it will clear any doubters minds.
Thanks