Hecce

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  Oh the irony! The elder, a car accident, and me....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  oh this is just worth sharing!.

  so , as many know, it has been two years since i have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.. the hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details i could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ".

  one elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!.

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  Hecce

  Thanks

  An uplifting experience.
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  Fidel Castro and the WT

  by Hecce in

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  i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.

  you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.

  during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.

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  Hecce

  With all the bunker mentality and the gloom and doom predicted by the WT it is good to remember the Cuban debacle in that field.

  As I mentioned before, the WT attitude towards the Castro Government was antagonistic from the beginning. Something that was implemented and backfired big time was trying to use the communist literature against the officials.

  There was a booklet from Lenin, the founder of the Soviet Union called "About Religion" and it stated in some portions the need for religious tolerance and freedom. Some of the brothers quoted this source when talking to the police, the results were really, really bad.

  Incidentally the Lenin booklet was written before his takeover, like Castro once that he was in power it was a different situation and behavior.
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  Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  in my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.

  they've never dated girls.

  they're "best friends".

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  Hecce

  I have never seen males brothers attached to each other and living together, on the other hand I have seen females living together and taking care of each for years; sometimes lifetime. Outsiders always figure it out that there was something going on but decided to let them mind their life, none of the cases that I know exploded into a full blown scandal.
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  From Bob Hope Theater to JW Assembly Hall

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.

  i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.

  i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.

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  Hecce

  The two Assembly Halls at Liemert Park and Woodland Hills pre dated the WT takeover of these properties, both were negotiated, refurbished and administrated by local brothers. The WT provided financing that was repaid at the usual WT rate for that time. Both places were a money making operation, specially during the Cafeteria times and they supported a full time caretaker. When the time came for a sale the WT scooped the proceeds faster than a speeding bullet and it was presented to the friends the need for $$$$$ for any new project.
  
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

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  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  The distance between KHs is not that much, however for families without transportation it will be a nightmare. People are used to come to the meetings with just the family in their cars and there is not spirit of "sharing".
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  Hecce

  It looks like this program will be implemented step by step in different areas, some friends in other parts of the City are not aware of these changes.
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  From Bob Hope Theater to JW Assembly Hall

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.

  i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.

  i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.

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  Hecce

  Norco was already there when Woodland Hills was sold, it was expanded and remodeled. Santa Clarita was supposed to be the replacement for WH but they ended building at Mira Loma, about 15 miles from Norco.

  The brothers lost a lot with the sale of Leimert Park and Woodland Hills and there was a lot of chicanery in the process.
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  Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

  many has shown interest in this situation.

  the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

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  Hecce

  I feel uneasy about this urgent message, there is nothing in the Spanish Forum validating its veracity. I hope than someone will come forward and tell us if this legit or someone's prank.
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  Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

  many has shown interest in this situation.

  the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

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  wifibandit

  I see that this came from London, if that is the case someone is going to be in deep dodo.

  Their quick reaction is also evidence of how closely they read this forums.
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  From Bob Hope Theater to JW Assembly Hall

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.

  i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.

  i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.

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  Hecce

  darkspilver

  Thanks, nothing new under this sun here.

  I think the previous article doesn't mention the 30 million $$$$$ involved.

  The parking was a bit of a problem, but it was centrally located. It was sold under the pretense that the 101 FWY was going to be expanded and that it was going to impact the property. That was not in the cards, there was an offer made for a piece of land in Santa Clarita, they put a $100,000.00 deposit without contingencies.

  When the the soil analysis was done they discovered than the land was not suitable for an A Hall and they lost the money; the only satisfaction that they got out of that was firing the Realtor, a brother that was nicknamed Mr Magoo due to his resemblance.