thought i would start a discussion, and hopefully a positive one, on what successes you’ve enjoyed since leaving the org.. each of us is different as people, in life experiences etc.
however we all share one common factor in that we have all experienced the negativity, to a greater or lesser degree, of being a jw and the org.. each success is worth celebrating so i invite you to share some of your achievements.
it does not matter how ‘big or small’ it is, share it with us.. my achievement means a great deal to me both personally and professionally.
Giordano
We have been out for over 5 decades and pursued a life based on our family and making art.
It seems that you split early enough to have a chance to do something with your life, for some others not much of a chance to accomplish anything; just the mere satisfaction of freedom and being able to help others.
i was at my assembly when this was discussed last week.
of course i hadn't prepared and i heard "no rules about limits", or at least i thought i did.. here's the direct quote from the watchtower study article.. "although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.
the watchtower (study edition) august 2016 : making christian marriage a success, paragraph 8.. what say you?.
Chook12 hours agoThre were brothers in the old times who's spouses were made to feel guilty for these displays of affection and they stupidity approached elders and confessed such "sins" which resulted in divorced marriages, wrecked children ,all because some guys in Brooklyn thought they were Gods mouthpiece . Going beyond what's written is the orgs biggest sin.
You are so right, getting the elders inside your bed is the worse thing that you can do; nothing good is going to come out of that.
apparently the spanish forum, extj.com, is being shut down coming december.it's pretty sad.
there is still so much work to do to help people in latin america and spain come out of this cult!.
Yes, it was a sad day with the end of the Forum announcement. It seems that there is a combined effort from some of the friends to create a new forum and rescue all the information on this one.
Thanks to the Administrators for their many years of hosting and sharing.
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
This character Humberto Godinez served as a special pioneer or CO in Havana, Cuba; he was the person that started the whole witch hunt against Raymond Franz and Company. He is mentioned in COC.
On April 14, eight days before Schroeder returned my call, a Witness in New York named Joe Gould phoned the Brooklyn Service Department and talked to Harley Miller, a member of the five-man Service Department Committee.25 He told Miller that a fellow employee, a Cuban Witness named Humberto Godínez, had told him of a conversation in his home with a friend who was a Bethel family member. He said that the Bethel family member expressed himself on a number of points that differed from the organization’s teachings. Miller recommended to Gould that he try to find out from Godínez the name of the Bethel family member. This was done and the name of Cris Sánchez was supplied. Godínez also said that my name and those of Ed Dunlap and René Vázquez came into the conversation.
this book has been recommended to me a few times.
is it worth reading?.
how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?
in many countries around the world the realization of how reckless the jws can be towards child endangerment and, more broadly, family safety, has started to take hold.
the results from the preliminary findings of the australian royal commission and the case being made in the united kingdom - which may remove the watchtowers tax exempt status - are both prime examples of this.
unfortunately, as the wt is headquartered in the united states any actions taken against the society will ultimately be limited in scope for such outside countries.. however, if hillary clinton should become president, i think there's a very good chance the wt could face serious and very far reaching legal action.
I can think of no person I'd rather have for President than someone with a proven track record like Hillary Clinton.
Don't forget this part of her experience
i appreciate all the expressions of interest and solidarity.
it has been a very intense week.
i started with the help of many of you, a particular war for my rights as a european citizen.. we have achieved an important space and advertising with a single complaint, which is a great success that i share with you all.. the press has not only spoken about a single complaint, but they gave a full coverage on asocial behavior of jehovah's witnesses and the last, a very hard editorial from the newspaper el periodico director (link).
Good, be discreet as to what you are doing. Don't tip your hand.
Thanks
announcement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
The latest from the SF
Hedmanos, we have lost this battle, we have not lost the war.
An anonymous source has informed me that tomorrow, starting at 20 h. the same media publish a rectification of all published and publicly asking Miquel to recant to avoid a lawsuit by the Watch.
We have lost this battle, but never lose the war.
announcement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
The information published in the Spanish Forum is not too clear and specific, it is sadly full of jargon that is not relevant but confusing. I hope that they will come here and publish a clarification of what has happened, I am not going to be speculating and trying to decipher what they are writing.
announcement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
Rough Google translation:
No more NEWS IN NEWSPAPERS, AGAIN achievers.
We are not referring to you indolent geriatric ajalvireño, which teneís incontinence and stained Let all seats. Indolent the Committee still palomino Su-cu-cu-ru-cu-cu WatchSpain receive the news on Monday,
we: apostasíaibérica we communicate to all hedmandad, right now. Yes, we very expensive lawyers (not the Department of Service) of the Watch of 452 5th Ave, New York, the dollar equals 500 hours more per year.
If, newspaper editor and examine all documents sent from the United States and there is nothing more, in the vernacular, again Watch has managed to silence a problem.
Today is a day of mourning for freedom of expression, GeoBAR mutes and purchase, such as victims of abuse in the United States. Ash and mourning, what bothers the laughter that will give the granaino casTHo adulterer
We tried, but we have won all the media plan is canceled immediately.
Miquel must retract all allegations to avoid very costly prosecution.
http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?28382-No-m%C3%A1s-noticias-otra-vez-lo-habeis-logrado
