Snoochems: thanks for your comment, both religions are full of submission and fanaticism.
Posts by Hecce
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5The Watchtower and Islam
by Hecce ina few times we have commented in the forum about the lack of information in the watchtower publications about the islamic religion.
we have to go back to 1951 to find a very comprehensive analysis of mohamed and his religion that is in the book “what has religion done for mankind?”.. this subject is discussed on page 278 and chapter 22, under the title “islam, mohamed religion of submission”.
the information is written with the watchtower detailed style for those days and there is a lot of history to be learn in that chapter.
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The Watchtower and Islam
by Hecce ina few times we have commented in the forum about the lack of information in the watchtower publications about the islamic religion.
we have to go back to 1951 to find a very comprehensive analysis of mohamed and his religion that is in the book “what has religion done for mankind?”.. this subject is discussed on page 278 and chapter 22, under the title “islam, mohamed religion of submission”.
the information is written with the watchtower detailed style for those days and there is a lot of history to be learn in that chapter.
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Hecce
A few times we have commented in the Forum about the lack of information in the Watchtower publications about the Islamic religion. We have to go back to 1951 to find a very comprehensive analysis of Mohamed and his religion That is in the book “What has religion done for mankind?”.
This subject is discussed on page 278 and chapter 22, under the title “Islam, Mohamed religion of submission”. The information is written with the Watchtower detailed style for those days and there is a lot of history to be learn in that chapter. One thing that surprises is that the final conclusions regarding Islam are very mild in comparison with the merciless attacks against Christendom at that time.
In the event that you will like to read the book I am listing a link and also the final paragraph of that chapter; just to give you an idea of the conclusions.
22 Mohammed's religion has not prevailed over
all religion, as predicted, even though it has such
an appeal because it is an easy or light religion
that makes concessions to human weakness . It
claims one-ninth of the world's population, or
250 million adherents. But it is divided into 72
sects or denominations, and today it is threatened
like Christendom by the world menace of international
communism. In this the final crisis of this
old world Islam has no message to offer distressed
humanity regarding God's kingdom of the Seed
of his woman for the blessing of all who turn to
the one living and true God, Jehovah. Let Moslems
as well as people of Christendom take heed to
Jehovah's words at Isaiah 8 :20, AS. Let them
study His Word in the Holy Bible and thus enjoy
the morning light of the new world.
1951 - What Has Religion Done For Mankind.pdf - da-ip.getmyip.com
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The big mistake of jw.org property management
by Gorbatchov intoday i read some news story's about the property deals of jw.org in brooklyn.
they made good money and good connections.. but i'm sure jw.org made a very, very big mistake in brooklyn.
they did.. they sold and are selling all the property for money.
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John Davis
Under the scenario that I was proposing the properties could be fully used until the completion of the sale. No need to have empty buildings or change the use. What this was going to involve was a decelerated lay off of the Bethelites.
At any rate, this is full of ifs and it is only an exercise in "what ifs?". What is done is done.
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The big mistake of jw.org property management
by Gorbatchov intoday i read some news story's about the property deals of jw.org in brooklyn.
they made good money and good connections.. but i'm sure jw.org made a very, very big mistake in brooklyn.
they did.. they sold and are selling all the property for money.
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JeffT
I agree with everything that you are saying. My only doubt as to what they did, is dumping everything at once. Considering that their properties are prime real estate I would think that a gradual sale of the properties was a better idea.
I warn you this is coming from a guy sitting at home in his pajamas.
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The big mistake of jw.org property management
by Gorbatchov intoday i read some news story's about the property deals of jw.org in brooklyn.
they made good money and good connections.. but i'm sure jw.org made a very, very big mistake in brooklyn.
they did.. they sold and are selling all the property for money.
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Hecce
Something to keep in mind, under the tax structure in the US an arrangement like the Patterson Inn and the land lease in Brooklyn will be a commercial enterprise and the WT will he liable not just for the property taxes but also for the income taxes generated by the property.
It will get very complicated and subject to Internal Revenue Service controls.
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The big mistake of jw.org property management
by Gorbatchov intoday i read some news story's about the property deals of jw.org in brooklyn.
they made good money and good connections.. but i'm sure jw.org made a very, very big mistake in brooklyn.
they did.. they sold and are selling all the property for money.
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Hecce
Thanks John Davis for the input on the taxation matter.
There are two other explanations that I have heard thru the "grapevine" and they have to be taken as just rumors. I will post the first one, I was told that 9/11 had a profound effect in the WT brass and that they saw the event as a sign to "run for the hills".
Maybe, I don't know.
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The big mistake of jw.org property management
by Gorbatchov intoday i read some news story's about the property deals of jw.org in brooklyn.
they made good money and good connections.. but i'm sure jw.org made a very, very big mistake in brooklyn.
they did.. they sold and are selling all the property for money.
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Hecce
I think that the main factor here is taxation, for a long time the State and City have been aggravated for the tax exempt status of the real estate holdings of the Watchtower. it is very likely that such change in property use will for sure result in a new taxing status.
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"Child abuse is abhorrent to us."
by Hecce inbirds of a feather flock together.
australian cardinal george pell: "they are false.
the whole idea of sexual abuse is abhorrent to me.".
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Vatican police 'break up gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope Francis's key advisers'
It is the latest scandal to hit the Vatican and comes after its finance chief Cardinal George Pell was charged with historical sexual offences.
Pell has protested his innocence and said he was looking forward to having his day in court after a two-year investigation, 'leaks to the media' and 'relentless character assassination'. Police have not revealed details of the charges against the 76-year-old, citing the need to preserve the integrity of the judicial process.
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Hypocrisy of JW.org at this week's book study
by UnshackleTheChains ina paragraph taken from this week's study of 'gods kingdom rules.
15 jehovah’s people remain loyal to the messianic kingdom not only by refusing military service but also by respectfully declining to join in nationalistic ceremonies.
especially since the outbreak of world war ii, a wave of nationalistic fervor has swept the globe.
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Hecce
A definition of hypocrisy:
A pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
Very appropriate, contrast Chile and Mexico with Malawi and Cuba.
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Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain
by Listener inthe watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.
w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.
they are no longer certain on this point.
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Hecce
*** w87 8/15 p. 29 Where Were His Legs? ***
What About Jesus?
So, what does this indicate about how Jesus was executed? Really, not much at all! For instance, as we discussed on page 23, Jesus most likely was executed on an upright stake without any crossbeam. No man today can know with certainty even how many nails were used in Jesus’ case. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (1979, Volume 1, page 826) comments: “The exact number of nails used . . . has been the subject of considerable speculation. In the earliest depictions of the crucifixion Jesus’ feet are shown separately nailed, but in later ones they are crossed and affixed to the upright with one nail.”
We do know that his hands or arms were not simply bound, for Thomas later said: “Unless I see in his hands the print of the nails.” (John 20:25) That could have meant a nail through each hand, or the plural “nails” might have reference to nail prints in ‘his hands and his feet.’ (See Luke 24:39.) We cannot know precisely where the nails pierced him, though it obviously was in the area of his hands. The Scriptural account simply does not provide exact details, nor does it need to. And if scholars who have directly examined the bones found near Jerusalem in 1968 cannot even be sure how that corpse was positioned, it certainly does not prove how Jesus was positioned.
We thus recognize that depictions of Jesus’ death in our publications, such as you see on page 24, are merely reasonable artistic renderings of the scene, not statements of anatomic absolutes. Such depictions need not reflect the changing and conflicting opinions of scholars, and the drawings definitely avoid religious symbols that stem from ancient paganism.