Whose moral obligation is it to pay for the funeral, the money-hoarding husband or a poor Kingdom Hall?
ÁrbolesdeArabia
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Who Should Pay For My Wife's Funeral? Me or the Congregation? She killed herself.
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini am a jw rule breaker, and i have never been a "rat", as logic dictates i am very trusted with people's dealings (inner circles of local players).
"dear james, there is a brother whose wife pretty much killed herself two years ago and refused to pay for her funeral."...
"he is still in good standing after forcing the congregation to pay for her burial, "wake" and funds for her poor kids to attend the funeral.".
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WT Admits It's Free For Them ... But Not For You
by Perry init official and clear as mud.
however i pulled out my highlighter and made a few notes.. it's free for us - but it ain't for y'all.
too bad i missed the 6/15/2011 wt study.
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
Please tell me how St. Paul created two class distinctions with Romans? I stayed up late reading and studying Paul's writtings, still there is nothing found the back's up the WT's article you kindly posted. As Jehovah's Witnesses, how did we allow the "free gift of God" to be taken away willingly? What was wrong with my head for not catching this?
Roman's Chapter 5 NIV UK-Version, Biblegateway.com
5 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we [a] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we [b] boast in the hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only so, but we [c] also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4 perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 And hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.
6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7 Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous person, though for a good person someone might possibly dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! 10 For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! 11 Not only is this so, we also boast in Go but d through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation."
Romans Chapter 7: "
Released from the law, bound to Christ
7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters - for I am speaking to those who know the law - that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.
4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, [a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Romans 8:1-5 "
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you [a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, [b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. [c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit...."
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life [d] because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of [e] his Spirit who lives in you."
In the following verses from Roman's chapter 9, St. Paul say:
22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath - prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory - 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25 As he says in Hosea:
'I will call them "my people" who are not my people;
and I will call her "my loved one" who is not my loved one,' [i]26 and,
'In the very place where it was said to them,
"You are not my people,"
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Is it ethical to confess extramarital sex to your spouse
by Most Noble indurex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.
there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .
what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
@finally awake: Could you do the "Elaine Bobbit"?
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Is it ethical to confess extramarital sex to your spouse
by Most Noble indurex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.
there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .
what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
To young JWs:
Elaine Bobitt according to Wiki:
"Incident
During the night of June 23, 1993, John Wayne Bobbitt arrived at the couple's apartment in Manassas, Virginia, allegedly intoxicated after a night of partying. According to testimony given by Lorena Bobbitt in a 1994 court hearing, he then raped her. (In 1994 he was tried for and acquitted of spousal rape, prosecuted by the same district attorney who prosecuted Lorena for attacking her husband.) Afterwards, Lorena Bobbitt got out of bed and went to the kitchen for a drink of water. Grabbing the knife, Lorena Bobbitt entered the bedroom where John was sleeping and proceeded to cut off nearly half of his penis. [1]
After assaulting her husband, Lorena left the apartment with the severed penis, drove a short while, then rolled down the car window and threw the penis into a field. Realizing the severity of the incident, she stopped and called 911. After an exhaustive search, the penis was located, packed in ice, and taken to the hospital where John Bobbitt was being treated.
The penis was reattached by Doctors James T. Sehn and David Berman during a nine-and-a-half-hour operation. [2]
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
Yes Please!
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Is it ethical to confess extramarital sex to your spouse
by Most Noble indurex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.
there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .
what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
In a animalistic world you have no reason to confess anything to your wife, just get laid as many times as you desire without catching any diseases.
The sociopath or psychopath need not confess anything either, unless they know they can manipulate their spouse in the method of the "game".
The moral person with a conscience, they try to do the right think by informing their spouse of a "one-time accident"? or "I need more and you don't have what I need."
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Is it ethical to confess extramarital sex to your spouse
by Most Noble indurex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.
there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .
what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
I told my wife about my affair with NewChapter and Tec(Tammy), I am waiting for the brothers to excommunicate me.
PS MrsJones is hottie, I best stay my distance from her!
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Who Should Pay For My Wife's Funeral? Me or the Congregation? She killed herself.
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini am a jw rule breaker, and i have never been a "rat", as logic dictates i am very trusted with people's dealings (inner circles of local players).
"dear james, there is a brother whose wife pretty much killed herself two years ago and refused to pay for her funeral."...
"he is still in good standing after forcing the congregation to pay for her burial, "wake" and funds for her poor kids to attend the funeral.".
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
I am a JW rule breaker, and I have never been a "Rat", as logic dictates I am very trusted with people's dealings (inner circles of local players).
"Dear James, there is a brother whose wife pretty much killed herself two years ago and refused to pay for her funeral."...
"He is still in good standing after forcing the congregation to pay for her burial, "Wake" and funds for her poor kids to attend the funeral."
..."He refused to allow the kids of the deceased wife, to pick up her possessions even though their marriage was less than six months."
..."Why are Jehovah's Witnesses as a whole, such good people while invididuals like her husband (he's not poor by any means) pieces of shit who are not disfellowshiped for evil?"
I can't post the whole letter (name changed of course!), the story is enough for members in this area to figure out who "their kind sister" was. What does JWN think, who should pay for the funeral?
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What Sign Does the Governing Body Offer They Are "The Vine" of (John 15:1-8)
by ÁrbolesdeArabia in"outrageous claims demand extraordinary proof!".
what sign or evidence back's the watchtower's leadership's claim, they are "the vine" (john 15) and are jesus christ's modern day apostles?
the 1950 something watchtower makes the claim if we fall off their vine, we become like a dead limb or commit spiritual suicide (if some new teaching cracks or blows us off the vine(watchtower teachings)).
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
The gist of the Watchtower article is they are providing nutrition the "Vine" provides to the branches that produce fruit.
Jesus provided all the food the branches need, what fertilizers, trace-elements and minor nutrients is the Faithful Slave adding? Melanine, "Round-Up", "Agent-Orange" with all their false predictions and One Million and twenty-six rules?
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How many of you have lost your faith on JWN
by Most Noble injust curious, if anyone had lost faith whilst on jwn and do u think it is an honorable experience?..
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ÁrbolesdeArabia
JWN has helped me develop a great faith with mankind, we are not perfect but not as horrible as we were told.
JWN added more perspective in my life, learning how the "men at the top' were telling me to go in field service, while not lifting a finger, brought more faith in Jesus warning about "Wolf's in sheep's clothing", "Men tricking even the elect". More faith into Jesus prophecy of fake men.
JWN has taught me who the real apostates are, prophets like Jeremiah, Isaiah, Haggai, Nahum, Malachia, Matthew,Mark,Luke,John, Paul, James, Jude would be "Disfellowshiphed" from the Watchtower Organization as "Apostates".
If the old prophets of Isreal were resurrected, for Beth-Sarim, if they were critical of the Org's big talk, would they be killed? New faith teaches me the GB might put a hit out on the Prophets raised from the dead! :)