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  Did Rutherford Really Have Rat Bites On His Body? Dead For Three Days Before Found?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

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  2. beliefs

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  i heard rutherford was dead for three days before anyone found him, has this been verified by outside sources?

  the rat bites creep me out, how could anyone leave a saint like him to die alone?

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  I heard Rutherford was dead for three days before anyone found him, has this been verified by outside sources? The rat bites creep me out, how could anyone leave a saint like him to die alone?
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  Jehovah's Witness elder clears his conscious

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2ltdktyhe.

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  I have a problem with his "we never graduated from High School", nobody I know was told to quit high school to pursue Kingdom activities. He is leaving out facts allowing others to draw incorrect conclusions "Jehovah's Witnesses told their children to quit high school".

  How many members on JWN were told to quit high school? JW mothers were often home schoolers at the least, quiting school to join the theocratic army, I don't know anyone who preached this crap from the platform!
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  It all is begging to crumble

  by lostinthought in

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  i've been mentally out for about two years now.

  i am in my 30s and i don't live at home, am not married or anything like that.

  i was visiting my mom this past week, i tell you the women has a 6th sense if she weren't a jw shed be a psychic.

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  moeshe: her mother did exactly what all good JWs are programmed to do, report the sins of anyone ( don't be stupid and try this with good elders or traveling overseers, they will lie!) without political or financial theocratic capital. I would be surprised if her mother did not report her sins to a fab or favorite elder. We know the Watchtower twisted the words found at James 5:16 "Confess your sins to everyone" to mean "Confess your sins to company appointed men".

  Finkle's solid advice leaves me grasping what other advice we can add. I was curious if your family is very close knit, how loving and kind are your brothers and sisters? I know there are mothers who are not willing to allow "traditons of men" to overide their Christian and maternal love, is your's this type? If the father in Jesus parable about the "prodigal's son" was legalistic and binded to a group of rules, Jesus never would have brought up how God is ready to forgive sins. Prodigal did not wait six months or two years before he ran and hugged his wayward son, his love and mercy for immediantly felt by the wrongdoer!
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  This Ex Jehovah Witness Must Say Good Bye For Now, Thanks For you help.

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  peace and love to you all, good bye until i can find myself in a deeper sense.

  jwn has helped me get a better grip with reality, knowing we are all kinda tweaked from our collective experience.

  the pain the religion has inflicted on the innocent men and women is not cool, i know you will keep up the good work and please watch over the newbies who are looking for comfort, support and the listening ear.

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  Peace and Love to you all, Good Bye until I can find myself in a deeper sense. JWN has helped me get a better grip with reality, knowing we are all kinda tweaked from our collective experience. The pain the religion has inflicted on the innocent men and women is not cool, I know you will keep up the good work and please watch over the newbies who are looking for comfort, support and the listening ear.

  PEACE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. HOPEFULLY I CAN RETURN BY MID-JANUARY OR FEB 2013!
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  Punctuation within and without quotation marks

  by compound complex in

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  http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp .

  would someone please make this link clickable?.

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  Complex" do you own a copy of the "Heath Handbook"?
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  Punctuation within and without quotation marks

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. physical

  http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp .

  would someone please make this link clickable?.

  cc.

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  Complex" do you own a copy of the "Heath Handbook"?
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  Did Ray Franz Go On The "Talk Show", "Radio Show", "Church Circuit" To Bash WTS?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i notice in ray's books he has a disdain for the more vocal dissidents of the watchtower organization.

  with this being said, did ray franz go on shows like merv griffen, oprah and other "talk mediums" to attack the watchtower society?

  i remember as a kid my mother running up and turning off shows apostates were to appear on, and i can't remember if ray was one of the 'bashers'?

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  Thank you everybody for posting on this thread, the truth is Ray Franz is not the Ogre the Watchtower has insinuated but was a good man fighting for more Truth!

  I am glad we can let this thread go into the archieves with full agreement (Not a 2/3s majority) "Ray Franz loved his brothers and sisters and never lied about the Watchtower Organization. We should include Ed Dunlap into this motion, he was another man of God and Jesus Christ who loved, not spread lies the way their tormentors did! God Bless Everyone helping with this thread, thank you a billion!
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  Re-write of history in February 15, 2013 Watchtower

  by Black Sheep in

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  2. bible

  http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/5a/w_e_20130215.pdf.

  page 4.

  5 that privilege became part of our.

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  Black-Sheep, until people start to do a little more "Fact Checking" and avoid "Fox and Friends Of Bethel", they are going to get away with Historical Revisionism and the poor little 17-28 year-olds will get eaten alive by the "Big Bad Apostates" "Wow, what big facts you have grandma!"

  Currently there is more emphasis one avoiding anything other than JW.org on the net, fear of truth is tearing away the GB's New Suit.
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  Who cares about 2014

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. friends

  i keep seeing posts expressing a view that 2014 is going to trigger a significant increase in unrest amongst witnesses as it's 100 years since 1914. there has also been some suggestions that the society will have to publish something to head this off at the pass.

  i can understand why this might seem a reasonable view but i am not hearing any discontent about the date amongst anyone i know.. my impression is that the significance of a 100 year anniversary of 1914 is of more import to those that have left the organisation and those already questioning things than it is to the average dub.. i also suspect that the society will not do anything that may raise the profile of 100 years passing.

  much more likely is more subtle messages such as the one in the jan magazine about "false alarms".

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  Oh DOC Not 2014!!!!!! : [say it]
  
  [say it isn't so]
  
  [say it]
  
  [say it isn't so]
  
  Say it isn't so painful to tell me that you're dissatisfied (with 1914).
  
  Last time I asked you I really got a lame excuse (a new generation you said)
  
  I know that you lied.
  
  Now wicked things can happen...you see em goin down in war.
  
  But when you play in a quiet way that bites it even more.
  
  [say it]
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  Who cares about 2014

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i keep seeing posts expressing a view that 2014 is going to trigger a significant increase in unrest amongst witnesses as it's 100 years since 1914. there has also been some suggestions that the society will have to publish something to head this off at the pass.

  i can understand why this might seem a reasonable view but i am not hearing any discontent about the date amongst anyone i know.. my impression is that the significance of a 100 year anniversary of 1914 is of more import to those that have left the organisation and those already questioning things than it is to the average dub.. i also suspect that the society will not do anything that may raise the profile of 100 years passing.

  much more likely is more subtle messages such as the one in the jan magazine about "false alarms".

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  say it]
  
  Tell me what you want yeah
  
  Ill do it baby I promise right now.
  
  [say it]
  
  Who propped you up when you were stopped low motivation had you on the ground.
  
  I know your first reaction you slide away hide away goodbye.
  
  But if there's a doubt maybe I can give out a thousand reasons why.
  
  You have to say it isn't so...
  
  [it isn't so].
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so]
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so].
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so]
  
  [say it]
  
  We like to be the strangers at the party, two rebels in a shell.
  
  [say it]
  
  You like to move with the best of them you know we move so well.
  
  Don't need someone to lean on. I know that there's an open door.
  
  But if Im faced with being replaced I want you even more so baby say it isn't so...
  
  [it isn't so].
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so].
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so]
  
  I say it isn't so
  
  [it isn't so]
  
  [say it]
  
  [say it isn't so]