I notice Mr. Falcon used the word "Troll" when I asked sarcastically how the Watchtower could allow a saint like Ruthernut to die alone. Turtle abusive people only respond well to be abused and humiliated. Psychologist ponder how women can be attracted to men who beat the hell out of them. Women of low self-esteem repeat this process over and over, I think the Troll Hunter is looking for that codependant relationship that's missing in their life. I suppose it's best to avoid, ignore Troll Hunters and leave them with their miserable, pitiful existence.
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My Humble Opinion of This Forum
by turtleturtle infirst off, i love frequenting this forum.
it has given me the opportunity to truly put jw stuff to the test and i thank everyone for their helpful responses.. however, i have noticed a couple things.. 1) the use of the word "troll" is completely childish.
this is no different than the name calling used by jws (e.g.
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Did Rutherford Really Have Rat Bites On His Body? Dead For Three Days Before Found?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia in.
i heard rutherford was dead for three days before anyone found him, has this been verified by outside sources?
the rat bites creep me out, how could anyone leave a saint like him to die alone?
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I agree, the sordid rumors and speculation are not as glorious and news worthy as the plain truth. Newspapers sell more with Man Eaten By Rats Alive! Thank's you three, I lived in Seattle for a time and some, it was not uncommon for older Witnesses to die alone in rest homes, so past experience tried to create this possibility in my mind. I hope Ruthernut was not alone, even if he was prone to booze and women. "Prohobition" was his magazine to explain away sin, he had crazy ideas.
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Jehovah's Witness elder clears his conscious
by BlindersOff1 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2ltdktyhe.
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mamochan, your right it's overboard but I am tired of all these people calling anyone a Troll. I graduated in 1981, children were told either to "Go to a Trade School after high school or Pioneer". Mom would never have allowed me or my brothers to quit school because I know she never believed 1975 was the "End". Mom told me once, "I don't think I am a good Jehovah Witness because Jesus said nobody knows the day or hour. Why don't these men understand this?" Mother disobeyed her JW Mom and joined Amy Simple McPherson (Four Square Church) and moved into the desert in the late 40s or 50s, she never would talk about this low point of life. What she saw turned her off of religion until she united with the JW family members. Step grandpa and granny attend the Cedar Point, Ohio convention and believed they would never die.
Mamochan, it's time to attack the troll hunters who wish to strangle free-speech or differing opinons. I notice anyone who challenges something said is labled a "Troll", and every negative thing about Jehovah's Witnesses including vicious lies are not confronted. Is this what Simon wants? Mindless drones who believe every negative and wicked attack lodged against JWs? The video is clear with the author saying by suppressing facts, that "all jehovah witnesses were told to quit high school." It's there, just listen to his video again, my remarks about "marry at 14" were not aimmed at the video author, those were for my hillbilly attacker Granny Goodness-Lois Lane! Lois-Granny-Goodness is one of the first JWN users to lodge "TROLL!", maybe she can read the story about "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf"?
Should all the lurkers, newbies and outspoken long time exJWs who seen false conclusions being drawn from suppressed or slanted facts, just keep their mouth shut so we Watchtower Haters have free reign over Simon's site?
I applaued my lawyer friend who came to this defense, his views with Marvin's thread on Florida's Legal Brief was pure energy! Thank you Chaserous for really being "Fair and Balanced", your thread with Marvin was a "triple read"!
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Did Rutherford Really Have Rat Bites On His Body? Dead For Three Days Before Found?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia in.
i heard rutherford was dead for three days before anyone found him, has this been verified by outside sources?
the rat bites creep me out, how could anyone leave a saint like him to die alone?
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James a group in Manhattan Beach claimed to have a copy of the offical autopsy, without photos it's unfounded speculation. The hyper ex-jw said the proof was beyond refuting, I agree with you James.
I am surprised Rutherford was allowed to die without a nurse aid or any type of daily housekeeping staff. It's a insult to think their President died alone, something Rutherford feared the most and still became his reality.
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Jehovah's Witness elder clears his conscious
by BlindersOff1 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2ltdktyhe.
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Lois-Lane AKA "Granny Goodness" will never find Superman, with her looks maybe Bizarro! You wanna play you old hag, it takes a TROLL to spot a troll granny!
Recovery he can pour his heart out, maybe it's just the State I live in, no marriage at age 14 and our elders and Traveling Overseers never preached to quit High School. Trade Schools were used for Witnesses who wished to continue education after the 12th grade. I am not going to sit back and listen to people water down Simons website no matter how many tears are shed. JWs on the West Coast were told to get their high school education, maybe in the Ozarks it's different where Lois Lane lives but not here!
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Jehovah's Witness elder clears his conscious
by BlindersOff1 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2ltdktyhe.
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What a ignorant hag you are Lois Lane!
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WT Society Still Lies to JW's into Believing they Live Forever - 12/15 WT
by flipper inthis quote was just so annoying and unbelievable it stunk the pages right up.
but doesn't all the wt rhetoric stink it up ?
in the article titled, " find real success in life " on pg.
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flipper, we need to pity everyone believing all the garbage and untruth the WTS is able to endlessly manufacture. They have a Etch-a-Sketch doctrine board, shake that sucker up hard and create new exciting ideas depressed and burned-out dubs will accept without questioning.
I pray for them at night, it's not funny how deeply imbedded these crazy doctrines and crooks are controlling decent people's minds. This religion suits the pharisees well, it empowers them to treat other members like sh*t, while feeling pious and righteous. I was under attack by two witnesses who break all the WTS rules but still use their police to chase possible apostates down. Their minds are closed until someone does something evil to them or their child and elder justice never arrives. It's possible a family member they love might be disfellowshiped, than the "house of cards" will begin to topple as the dub ask "why, he/she was a good person!"
Till then, "Imagine yourself ten thousand years in the future looking back, now your glad you spent all that time placing books, maga-tracts and papers while the Governing Body never went in field service!"
The saying "If you understand a crazy person's mind" should keep you from pondering the mad rantings of these lunatics.
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My Humble Opinion of This Forum
by turtleturtle infirst off, i love frequenting this forum.
it has given me the opportunity to truly put jw stuff to the test and i thank everyone for their helpful responses.. however, i have noticed a couple things.. 1) the use of the word "troll" is completely childish.
this is no different than the name calling used by jws (e.g.
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I don't like the word "Apostate" because it does not reflect what the word really means, it's a vicious evil catch-all phrase used to shut the thinking part of Witnesses brain down.
I think people accuse others of being trolls because they can't believe some of the wild stories we hear on JWN. If you told me twenty years ago some pedophiles were allowed to roam a Kingdom Hall without a ball and chain, I would have called you a troll!
I thought the Organization dealt evenly and justly because I believed it was so. I now know that is a lie after seeing victims get swept under WTS gagg orders, allowing some pedophiles to remain as elders because a circuit overseer will threaten a victim with "slander" or "gossip" charges. I think more stories are going to come our way and test our ability to evaluate if their true or false. JW friendly websites call anyone a troll who attempts to ask questions web-administrators are unable to white-wash over, are we going to do the same? Turtle turtle is cool!
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Watchtower misleads the Florida Supreme Court
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower misrepresents santinelli on transfusion.
today i added a new article to my blog revealing a documented instance of watchtower lying to the supreme court of florida about a doctors view on blood transfusion.
for more than one reason this is a particularly bad instance of watchtower dishonesty at work.
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Very cool thread, I enjoyed reading Marvin and Chase's dissection of the material and explaining in more simple term's what is going on. Thank's Marvin and Chase!
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What happens when you argue with JW's?
by Terry ini can't claim 100% recall, certainly.
jw: "they are imperfect.
jw: "i don't know of any other place to go that has something better.".
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Terry, why do JWs equate leaving the Watchtower's false doctrine with heading to another group teaching bad doctrine? From the begining dubs are ingrained with "Where will I go, you (Jesus Christ Faithful Slave) have saying of life!" There are people who really would be lost without anyone telling them "how, what, where, when and why to live" as a group we were spiritual children purposely held down to prevent true spiritual growth and developing our own Christian conscience. I can read your post and see myself arguing with you five years ago, squirming and trying to remain calm while climbing over each Mount Everest obstacle you present to me. We are held in captivity to men who have no grasp on the difficulty of making a living or dealing with family dynamics.
The Governing Body and their Writing Department read the "Reader Digest" version of Family Life and Developmental Psychology and spout off like Erik Erikson or some great psychologist. As a child growing up in the Organization, men from Bethel were not big on having children race up to them, shoo kids get off my platform!
There is a serious disconnect because the Watchtower members live in a false reality instead of venturing into their followers field of living. Why were men like Knorr, Rutherford, Freddy Franz and other curmudgeons so screwed up, they never stepped out of their comfort zone into the trenches where the war was being fought!
Nobody has the strenght to endure those questions you presented to "JW" and not think to himself "what if I am wrong?" does he still exist in Watchtower-Land? This piece was pure excellence, thank you for taking the time to share a piece of yourself with us!
You had me at "It begins there......"
"It begins there.....
JW : "I just don't understand brothers who leave the organization and try to get other people to leave too."
Me: "Seems logical IF they leave for reasons of conscience."
JW: "If you don't believe what the society teaches then just leave. Why get yourself disfellowshipped? You will lose your friends."
Me: "I suppose having your family and friends held in a hostage situation is not much of a choice, is it?"
JW: "What do you mean?"
