sheesh you just know it all dont yas?
sunscapes
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Illuminati? New World Order? Bush? Sept. 11?
by sunscapes innew world order?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html.
chemtrails?
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Bryant Memorial Service Report
by seven006 init is hard for me to transcibe certain feelings into written words especially since i'm not what you would consider to be a real emotional person.
i have also mastered the art of rarely showing any outward emotional expression.
i will try and do my best to give you some of the feelings i experienced today through my eyes, so please bare with me.. i drove the hour to mcminnville which is a small town about forty miles south of portland.
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Thank you Dave, Dungbeetle (got to get a new nick! ), six and others...
Notice how the Yadirfs and YouKnows and Freds of the world don't dare post to these heart-rending threads...
A remote-viewer named Ed Dames once tried remote viewing Satan. His observation was: not evil, but rather very beautiful, but cold; aemotional; emotionless. If these are the Devil's true qualities, we can appreciate why such tragedies happen, and the JW mindset regarding them.
JWs: Beautiful on the surface, but COLD. COLD to the suffering of real people.
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Satan's Time Lessens
by Yadirf insatan's time lessens
the wts is the closest thing to the restoration of true worship that exists on the face of the earth today, all it needs now is to be perfected.
and it certainly has its enemies.
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sunscapes
Yadirf,
This is not a good day for your crap.
Maybe some other time would be more appropriate
Well, considering Today is Friday, and Yadirf is Friday spelled backwards, thank God it is Friday, and we'll have to let him post because it's his Day. -
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Illuminati? New World Order? Bush? Sept. 11?
by sunscapes innew world order?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html.
chemtrails?
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lol i seen that in the corner of my eye...and it tripped my memory of a website i was told about a couple of weeks ago! anything to all this?
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Illuminati? New World Order? Bush? Sept. 11?
by sunscapes innew world order?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html.
chemtrails?
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New World Order? http://educate-yourself.org/nwoindex.html
Chemtrails? http://educate-yourself.org/ctindex.html
George Dubya's Role? http://educate-yourself.org/resistingbushwar7mar02.html
September 11th? http://educate-yourself.org/wtcunansweredquestions28feb02.html
Yikes. Any of you read this before? You be the judge. Even if you only believe half of what you read, it is quite thought-provoking. Please don't flame me for being a conspiracy theorist! Prove this is bunk, please. It's so connected it's scary.
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Why does shunning hurt so much uniquely among JWs?
by sunscapes inwhat makes shunning in this religion real tough to deal with...(as opposed to being defrocked or ex-communicated, etc.):::.
why it's not as simple as "why don't you just walk away?".
1-many jws lack social skills from birth in jw upbringings, lack of diversity in associations, controlled environments sheltered from the real world.. 2-lack of outside contacts or support "safety net" of outside mentors.. 3-discouragement of seeking any outside independent sources, education or professional help or information.
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sunscapes
Refiners: No, shunning is not unique in and of itself, as I intended to compare JW vs. mainstream religions, rather than vs. the other cults, which indeed sometimes can be physically painful to leave in certain circumstances. The point I was making is that, if you grant the comparision, shunning is PAINful moreso in the JW vs. , say catholic or protestants, etc. That was my point.
No doubt as you say, painful shunning among other cults is prevalent, too.
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Hey, I'm new here
by Disposable Hero ini have frequented this site quite a bit, but i now have finally joined.
since i seen many other people's posts i will tell.
i grew up with my mother in the "truth" but my father was not.
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Welcome home! yes, in your secret research, you will see how much the WTS digs their own holes, yet the demonize and chastise 'apostates' and 'opposers' for bringing them out into the open.
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Why does shunning hurt so much uniquely among JWs?
by sunscapes inwhat makes shunning in this religion real tough to deal with...(as opposed to being defrocked or ex-communicated, etc.):::.
why it's not as simple as "why don't you just walk away?".
1-many jws lack social skills from birth in jw upbringings, lack of diversity in associations, controlled environments sheltered from the real world.. 2-lack of outside contacts or support "safety net" of outside mentors.. 3-discouragement of seeking any outside independent sources, education or professional help or information.
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well, I appreciate that, as I had a lot of different thoughts running around on this sore-spot issue with many good folks and I wanted to encapsulate as much as I could think of this. I just want to get to the root causes and consequences of shunning and why it's ungodly policy.
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JW Speakers
by MavMan inis there any particular speakers that you remember as being outstanding?
what was good about them?
did they use interesting illustrations?
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who loved to do the "sounds of the swamp [the world] beckoning us to come in: WadeIn -- WadeIn -- KneeDeep -- KneeDeep; WadeIn -- WadeIn -- KneeDeep -- KneeDeep ..." with a deep resonant voice.
Welcome to Da Swaaaaaaaaaamp!
Seriously, though, the oratory skills of many JWs is refined in the art of persuasion, reasoning and indoctrination. The ones that do it well get used a lot.
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Why does shunning hurt so much uniquely among JWs?
by sunscapes inwhat makes shunning in this religion real tough to deal with...(as opposed to being defrocked or ex-communicated, etc.):::.
why it's not as simple as "why don't you just walk away?".
1-many jws lack social skills from birth in jw upbringings, lack of diversity in associations, controlled environments sheltered from the real world.. 2-lack of outside contacts or support "safety net" of outside mentors.. 3-discouragement of seeking any outside independent sources, education or professional help or information.
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What makes shunning in this religion REAL tough to deal with...(as opposed to being defrocked or ex-communicated, etc.):::
Why it's not as simple as "Why don't you just walk away?"
1-Many JWs lack social skills from birth in JW upbringings, lack of diversity in associations, controlled environments sheltered from the real world.
2-Lack of outside contacts or support "safety net" of outside mentors.
3-Discouragement of seeking any outside independent sources, education or professional help or information. Discouragement of outside independent research after dedication.
4-Discouragement and intolerance of independent thinking and private opinion, or dissenting opinion.
5-Religion portrayed a "way of life" not to be deviated from, only one "way" is claimed to be in divine favor, like one "ark" of salvation, and one God demanding exclusive devotion.
6-Too high a value placed on "oneness" "unity" "brotherhood" inversely proportional to healthy relationship potential outside of the church
7-Larger proportions of entire families are indoctrinated, effectively making abstainers and objectors "black sheep" in their own families
8-"Service" and "spiritual condition" to deity measured numerically and subjectively from peers and overseers.
9-"Spiritual Family" trumps "Fleshly Family" when advice is given over who should one turn to for help in all matters.
just my 2 shillings