This is supposed to be a normal routine. The CO puts pressure on the elders to "bring the flock back" to the cong, so they are forced to phone inactive/irregular publishers and say how much they miss them despite never trying to contact them previously.
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Get ready for phone calls from Elders either this week or when the next CO visit happens.
by EndofMysteries ini got a call the other day, it looks like the gb is telling everyone to contact all inactive ones, let them know they are missed, etc, and to do it within a week.
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Appointed men & the 10 hour rule
by PlatinumFix indear all,.
could someone explain where it is written that mservants should be doing the congregation average/10 hours minimum?.
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Richard_I
As people already mentioned, it's simply an unwritten rule now. In all the congs I've been in, it is expected elders/MS will get at least 8 hours per month, they want to see a weekly schedule, ergo 2 hours x 4 weeks per month = 8 hours per month. if you are not meeting this, you will likely never be a MS/elder
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Article: Why are Millennials less religious? It's not just because of gay marriage
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://theweek.com/article/index/257009/why-are-millennials-less-religious-its-not-just-because-of-gay-marriage.
why are millennials less religious?
it's not just because of gay marriage.
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Richard_I
As a "millenial" (I thought we were called "Gen Y" and "Millenials" were those born after 2000, but whatever) I think it is because we grew up so simulated with technology and religious services are the complete opposite (no engagement, no benefit, no interaction, etc.). Plus some call us the "ADHD Generation" so maybe that has to do with it as well.
I know lots of millenials are doing the bare minimum as JWs and I know of only 2 that are MS out of dozens. The WT's gonna have a serious problem within the next 5-10 years when the average elder body is 70+, which its nearing in lots of cong. now in the west.
Wikipedia also has a short section about religion on the Millenials article. I find generational-topics (Baby Boomers, Gen X, Millenials, etc.) very interesting because you do see some characteristics specific to each group.
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Watchtower Farms Cemetery
by Gorbatchov indid someone post this already?.
the list of the watchtower farms cementery.... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&gscid=2403939.
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Richard_I
See also this thread, it used to have pictures but i don't see them now.
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The finances of the JW in Canada
by StephaneLaliberte inyes, revenu canada now has a service to display all of that information for free: click here!.
you can also have the finances of all the circuits, congregations and assembly halls over there.
wonder how much your kingdom hall is worth?
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Richard_I
The guy who signed the form, Clayton Hanson, is the teasurer at Canada Bethel, so he knows where all the money is going. I don't think he's part of the branch commitee though.
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The End of Circuit Overseers
by scotsman inis indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.
not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.
reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..
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Richard_I
I was thinking about this today for some reason, and I'm gonna make a prediction here: If they do not announce this at this year's district convention (or regional convention or whatever the hell its called now), then they will never change the CO arrangement. I have no idea why they would go back on this though because it would save them some money to keep them in a concentrated area and have regular elders act as a local CO, only they cover their expenses themselves.
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What do DO's do when not visiting assemblies?
by Richard_I inlet's say they attend a dozen circuit assemblies.
that's only 12 weeks they spend with a congregation.
what about the rest of the year?
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let's say they attend a dozen circuit assemblies. that's only 12 weeks they spend with a congregation. what about the rest of the year? just chill at bethel? i know some are used to teach the schools, but not all. and you only ever see them at your circuit assembly and maybe your DC, what the hell else do they do?
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Anyone have a circuit assembly today????
by DS211 inhey does anyone have a circuit assembly today and tomorrow?
if so please post whatever you can about it!!
i didnt go today but will be there tomorrow to hear whats next in the crazy jw world!!!.
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Richard_I
Big WTF when they did the stupid "drama" or whatever they call it about paint ball. They feel the need to have complete control over all JW lives, few years back it was "social media is the devil!! Facebook is the devil!!" now it's out in the open "if you play paintball Satan's training you for warfare and you're the devil!!!" i'm fucking fed up with this bs
couldnt stop shaking my head during it.
for those wondering, its two young brothers talking about paintball, i can't remember if one is inviting the other or if they both were invited by another brother. basically, they came to the conclusion that because you're using guns, its bad. they made a stupid joke about nail guns too (something like "we can use nail guns but not paintball guns") which made the audience roar in laughter
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Our Kingdom ministry March 2013 Question
by RobertT18 inis it true that the march ministry is hinting that this year will be the last memorial, someone just said that today in the service, just wanted to confirm.. .
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edit: forgot to add the month..
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Richard_I
For those confused by this thread (like I was), this is from the March KM, its paragraph 4 in the Q&A for the memorial:
Will this Memorial be our last? (1 Cor. 11:26) We do not know. But we do know that once it passes, gone will be a unique opportunity to show gratitude. Will you seize it? May the appreciative words of our mouth and the meditation of our heart bring pleasure to Jehovah, the generous Provider of the ransom. —Ps. 19:14.
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Internet at Bethel Monitored?
by jw07 ini was speaking to a group of uber-dubs over the weekend, and one of them was mentioning no-nonse policies at bethel, one of them being the monitoring of website visits.. he was saying that you had to 'freedom' to do certain things, like use the internet, but if you visited "the wrong websites" you would face consequences.
he mentioned the case of a brother who visited the "wrong website" a few days in and was immediately sent home.. can anyone shed ****new light**** on this?
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Richard_I
Yep, there's a filter on all Bethel internet. Porn sites are on the blacklist and all apostate sites, I actually tried visiting this site once and got a warning (and was never questioned about it, all I had to say though was "oops i clicked the wrong link, the URL was too similar to our official website, etc."). Basically you just get a blank page that says "Site forbidden: [reason, e.g. porn, apostate site, etc.]" and have to go back. However, your history is saved on the WT's servers and the Computer Department reviews your history every few months (or weeks). Also, I used torrents and other file sharing sites and never got in trouble.
If you're found to be looking at porn, the Computer Department tells your overseer. You are then summoned to meet with your overseer, who will question you over why you're looking at porn. The branch committee will then decide if you get to stay or not, in 95% of all cases IMO you're kicked out. Old man Max Larson (former printery overseer in the U.S.) supposedly said during a morning worship session that in the U.S., there's at least 2 cases per week of someone at Bethel getting caught trying to or successfuly viewing internet porn (by somehow bypassing the filter), and one time there were 7 cases in a week to deal with or something like that.
So there's lots of horny guys in bethel. Also, the WT's IPs actually say they're registered to the WT, and there was an internal letter about how you should keep that in mind when using the Internet at bethel.