if the informaiton i am posting is redundant or has been posted, please forgive me.. i know we are all at different stages of this journey.
for me i am still "in" but working towards being out and leaving.
any one in this position or who has been here knows how diffucult of a time this can be.
I now how you feel. The society paints all apostates as evil crazies who lie and try and destroy other people's faith.
In reality waking up to TTATT is one of the saddest and most difficult things I have ever done.
I don't claim to have the answers, and I am not crazy or a liar. That description better suits the WT Society.
lately when we have our family study we have been just reading the bible alone, without wt spin.
however i really need to start asking her good questions that wont set off her apostadar.
so i ask you fine folks; what are some questions or ways i can use the family study to help her think and start using her own mind on key ideas.
A favorite JW scripture; Faith without works is dead. In the book of James somewhere. If you quote that scripture to any JW and ask what it means, they will describe the works that faith produce; preaching, meeting attendance and the general JW lifestyle. JWs feel that these works are evidence to identify their faith as the 'true faith'.
In context the scripture in James has nothing to do with preaching or typical JW works. It is about being hospitable and charitable towards others. JWs are not exactly focusing their ministry on looking after orphans, widows and giving food and shelter to the needy, but many people, Christian and non Christian, do these things. Maybe showing your wife scriptures like this, and seeing how JWs cherry pick scriptures and take them out of context to support their theology might help her wake up. You have to be subtle obviously. You could talk about the scripture in Corithians I think, that says salvation is not earned by works, but through faith. This one does not get a lot attention from the JWs, because they are a works based religion.
2 Peter 3:9 Is basically saying that Jehovah is delaying Armageddon because he does not want to destroy people but wants all to be saved. This scripture is in clear contradiction to WT theology, because the worlds population is increasing at a far greater rate than those that are coming into Jehovahs organization. It means that every year that Amargeddon is delayed, an extra 70 million+ people that will have to be destroyed.... if JWs are the only ones that will survive, which is what we are taught. This does not make sense, something to talk about maybe. All the best.
my friends usually walked me home after dark.
but one evening i was so tired that i decided to call a taxi.
the driver didnt take me home.
This is sofa king stupid I can't believe it.
So if a JW woman is getting raped, she should scream her lungs out, not because of the horrific and terrifying experience of being brutally violated, but because she has an obligation before Jehovah and the congregation to put up a fight. She should fear that she might get cast out of the congregation and lose her standing before God if she does not put up a fight.
The Society is stepping way over the line to even comment on how being raped could affect someone's relationship with God. Seriously. Imagine if you were a victim of rape and you read this crap. Such a disgusting crime and the Society shies away from condemning the criminals but heaps guilt and fear on innocent victims. They should just say that any form of sexual invasion or coercion is disgraceful and no woman should ever have to go through that.
So if an armed man broke into my house, and I was at home, and he started stealing my possessions, and I didn't put up a fight, I would be equally guilty of armed robbery? Or would the matter just be left in Jehovah's hands? Idiots.
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I think Clive will die from heart attack before the ship is built, he is obese and extremely unhealthy looking.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.
is it me or is this kinda sick?
i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.
they should never write another article condemning video games
I don't get that either. They always remind everyone in the WT that 'true Christians' should not watch violent entertainment, but they feel that this is suitable education/entertainment for a 4 or 5 year old child. Hypocrisy?? Nothing new though.
i think it's fitting for my very first post to be a thread on jw.net turning myself in to any lurking elders out there on a witch-hunt to cleanse the congregation so that god's choosen ones can "remain in god's love.
" so i'm sorry to all you awesome, truthful apostates on this site, but this thread is really intended for any lurking nazis -- i mean, the taliban -- ugh, i mean elders of the world's most "loving" cult religion.. i am an apostate.
here, i'll save you the trouble:.
TTATT = the truth about the truth
Hello and welcome Elizabeth.
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unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .
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I feel a little sick reading this program knowing I will probably be attending this year. One pathetic DC solilquy is way to much.
On Friday there is a symposium on how you found the truth. I actually found the truth from human aposates (not canine or satan himself) on the big bad Internet.
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in the last 4 months my eyes have been opened to ttatt, my biggest issue is that the elders have been grooming me to appoint me as an elder.
Tell them you have a problem with masturbation, God hates a wanker.
Seriously though, you get good advice here. I will go now and let the adults keep talking.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/picture-activities/lots-wife-becomes-salt/.
is it me or is this kinda sick?
i mean i can understand learning from the account, but this is kinda deviant.
What a messed up 'kids activity'. I would rather my children play Halo or Call of Duty then participate in this mental screwing excercise. Kids who do this exercise, along with being exposed to all the other death at Armageddon images in the society's literature, wil have a seed planted deep in their minds that will grow into psychological disorders when they mature.
I know super zealous dubs who won't let their kids watch Madagascar or Kung-fu Panda or play Mariokart because of the violence. They can just do the dot to dots that the society puts out.
Don't forget to focus on the evil woman's dying eyes kids, notice her terror and pain, she has turned away from Jehovah and is now suffering horrific death. When you finish the dot to dot of death we can all sing 'Listen Obey And Be Blessed' together.
JWs feel they need to give their kids this divine education, or they could get corrupted by Satan, and that can really mess up a child's mind..
i have heard on this discussion board numerous rules that apply to upcoming a$$emblies.
some are designed to stop people from meeting the opposite sex; others, to make sure everyone is always ready to recruit new members into the scam.
i heard that some km inserts have been urging those whose congregation has cleaning assignments to sit in the section that they are assigned to clean.
The 'please keep moving' sign creates another privilege that they can give to zealous young brothers who meets the spiritual qualifications to hold a sign.
