Posts by 2+2=5

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Changes & Clarifications on our belief. DOMINO EFFECT blamed for late coming into print

by TheWonderofYou in

in the august broadcast bro splane explains this point deeper.. when the brothers are sitting together and joyfully speaking about clarification of jw belief, they often encounter and deal with that "domino-effect" when one scripture has effects on others.

so all changes are carefully considered before they come into print, one after the other but late.. lately he mentions the "godfathers" brother jaracz , barr as good examples of reading the bible progressivly, they were very progressive at there time.

what ever this could mean he did not explain it?.

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This is so 1984 this propaganda. Trying to spin changes in teachings, back-pedalling and doctrinal flip flops as something awesome and spiritual to be admired.

He is basically bragging about old GB members like Jaracz and Barr, how they just loved changing their minds and thinking up new ideas, always careful not to start a domino effect on the bullshit theology they have thought up and have it all come crashing down.

Are we supposed to be impressed by this? Are not Jah and Jesus apparently running the show??

It seems this Jehovah guy can get absolutely nothing right the first time.

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JW and the Sabbath

by Andromeda in

hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

i am an active jehovah's witness.

i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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I can't even tell now if you're trolling or just stupid.

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JW and the Sabbath

by Andromeda in

hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

i am an active jehovah's witness.

i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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I am well aware of the powers of demons and the deception they've played on us for centuries.
Also I have no clue where you get the idea that there is no evidence of a worldwide flood

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JW and the Sabbath

by Andromeda in

hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

i am an active jehovah's witness.

i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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Hi Andromeda.

I was also a JW and found myself not able to believe what the Wt teaches in regard to 1914. I did some more research and discovered many things.

The Sabbath day was established in the garden of Eden way before sin came into existence among ourselves. Had we never sinne

There was no 'garden of Eden' and there is no such thing as sin or fall from perfection. No heaven or hell or Angels and Demons and no afterlife.

It's all quite literally bullshit.

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Trolley cart "witnessing" is getting ridiculous

by oppostate in

i really fail to see how much actual "witnessing" is occurring with the trolley carts.publishers, usually pioneers, just stand or sit there not engaging anyone and count their time.. the only thing i notice that it's accomplishing is brand exposure for jw.0rg so the public is exposed to the logo and literature/poster card headlines.. take for example this "evening" witnessing by a pioneer elder while on summer holiday/vacation.. .

is this not a wth kinda moment when you consider the years of slaving, knocking on doors, business territory and bible studies we had to keep performing so we weren't branded a "weak" publisher?.

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Why don't they just tattoo the JW.Org logo on their bloody foreheads.

Then they can shut the f**k up.

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How would the world be different if there were no JWs?

by JW_Rogue in

i think this would be a great question to ask active jws.

they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.

however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?

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There would inevitably be more child abusers in a variety of other religions and cults looking for vulnerable victims.

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"Belief" and "Faith" are Simply Emotional Terms for Ideas and Opinions (long post)

by xjwsrock in

this is my current bottom-line conclusion after starting to see through the jw game 3 to 4 years ago and going through my own process of waking up.

it helps to write it down and put it "out there".

i hope it helps or resonates with you in your own personal process.. basically if i were given 10 seconds to say something to an active jehovah's witness that i cared about it would be the headline above.

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And for the record, every person will definitely have a face to face encounter with God. Everyone.

Thanks for the heads up, I will take record of this.

Sorry I've already dismissed it as complete bullshit.

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Jeehoober says we can clap for reinstated ones!!

by DATA-DOG in

so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!

evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.

clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.

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Well yippee-doo, I'm going back so I can get a round of applause by a group of strangers.

I was hanging out for the return of tea & biscuits after the book study until I made my return, but this applause is to hard to resist.

I will take a bow and offer a public prayer upon receiving my gratuitous round of applause.

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Do JWs believe they will be the only people saved at the "end"?

by LaurenM in

the answer posted on jw.org: "no.

many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t jehovah’s witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.

additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve god, and they too will gain salvation.

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It's doublespeak, as is every answer on the FAQ section of JW.org. They try to polish nuggets of shit so that they appear shiny to the public.

It's a fine art and they have obviously spent some considerable cash on trying to present the filthy cult as a more mainstream style religion, although it's becoming obvious they are fooling nobody but themselves.

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That Most Uneven of Judicial Procedures~The Gradual Lifting of Restriction After Reinstatement

by TMS in

those with substantial experience as jws will likely agree that judicial matters are handled with considerable inconsistency.

elders certainly vary in skill level, understanding, compassion or even knowledge of the talmudlike watchtower rules.

the punishment and, it is actually punishment, for similar offenses can result in anything from private or public reproof to disfellowshipping or sometimes an elder will choose to simply offer private counsel without even bringing the matter before the body of elders.

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Elders themselves with a "secret sin" they've been hiding for several years, may even avoid judicial action altogether if its determined that their life shows evidence of "Jehovah's blessing" in the intervening years of concealing the sin. Their theocratic appointment and privileges are considered part of that evidence

Yes, I commented about this little provision on a different thread yesterday, I probably didn't put it as succinctly, I used drugs and hookers to get my point across, your language sounded more like it would straight out of that filthy little book (elders cult instructions manual WT edition).

I would say congregation privileges are used as punishment and reward by dick elders in every congregation in the world. Myriads of elders get off on having control over these pathetic little assignments they call privileges . How small minded can you get?

Sisters should also be able to have some congregation privileges, I think my wife has skills to handle a microphone wonderfully.