this popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
Reading that has made my day. Bring on the bad publicity.
How the hell can Vincent Toole say that shunning is a 'myth'. So I can tell the elders tomorrow that I don't believe the religion anymore, and my life and friendships with my JW family and friends continue as normal??! More lies from the WTS. I will quote Vincent to the elders and my family when I finally give up pretending and quit this religion.
i witnessed the cleansing of the heavens in the year 2004, like the birth pains of a women, or nine years........ an increase of lawlessness, the economic downfall, the trials and tribulations of the faithful and discreet are being fulfilled as we speak.......prepare for the return of jesus christ........and every eye shall see him........ the slave of jah and of christ....... estephan.
When two different people on this forum get conflicting visions from God, I don't know who to believe.
i'm only going to the meeting because of my husband!
i was 'in' solo for years while living with my unbelieving family and i know how it feels to be the only one in your house going to the meeting.
i also respect my husband's decision, and know what it's like to have family try to tear down your beliefs.
Did you clean the hidden corners of your kitchen before you went to the meeting, to ensure that they are clean and sanitary? That is what house wives do. I learned that from the Jeremiah book this week. What a brilliant illustration from the 'Celebrated Watchtower Scholars'.
I know exactly how you feel, I still have to attend meetings, but I stopped preaching.
so what will happen to a witness if he doesn't shun a disfellowshipped person?
can he be disfellowshipped himself?
reproved?
That is a disgraceful experience wannabefree. This religion sucks the life out of people's lives.
does anyone know where ctr was really at on june 28th 1914?
hmmm.
the lengths someone will go through to not be mocked.. njy.
Well it must be true, I saw it on the Internet.
now that "habemus papam", i was wondering how it is that someone in the watchtower becomes a member of the governing body.
does anybody know?.
and, how do they choose who gets to be a member of the corporations?.
You would have to kiss a lot of ______ or suck a lot of ______ to climb that ladder I would imagine. But it is worth it in the end, because you get to have conversations with Jehovah about policy and procedure.
so what will happen to a witness if he doesn't shun a disfellowshipped person?
can he be disfellowshipped himself?
reproved?
You will be disfellowshipped if you continue to associate with a disfellowshipped person after you have been warned not to. This is the procedure that is outlined in the Shepard the Flock Cult Manual. Someone here might expand, maybe some ex elders here have had some experience.
to some, he's known as the father of chemistry.
to others, he's known as the inventor of the air pump.
to the watchtower bible & tract society, he's known as a great scientist who taught others how to separate truth from fiction (ironic) and one of the main pioneers in introducing the name jehovah (iehobhah) into the bible.... but who was he really at the end of the day?
I notice that Jeffro never comments on the Freemason threads......interesting.
this is the question that came up in my mind.
now dont get me wrong i know the dates from 607 - 1914 are rubbish, but how would you explain to a witness when they will automatically say, look at the momentus year 1914 was.
that is evidence enough that 607 is correct!.
The fact that CT Russel was able to pinpoint the year 1914, all them years in advance, is phenomenal. Or so says Anthony Morris III in the WTS promo DVD.
learning the truth about the watchtower society can be very painful for a number of reasons.
first, it is so disconcerting to realize that the core of your existence and the foundations of your beliefs are false that it can throw you for a real loop.
as witnesses we are so confident in all of the answers we have been given, to questions that we never asked, that we mentally put ourselves up on a pedestal above the masses of poor, blind, wicked humanity.
I enjoyed reading that and can relate to the wierd sensation of realizing that we are among the rest of humanity who don't have all the answers. It sits fine with me now, but when you are raised in the religion, you are supposed to be apart of the few people in the world who have the answers. I don't even care to ask the questions anymore.
I am roaming the corridors, and they seem to be getting busier.
