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  Unfaithful In What Is Least; Psychoanalysis Invited

  by TMS in

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  my wife and i were longtime jws.

  i was an elder for over 25 years and we had two stints of pioneering totally 14 years.

  while we considered ourselves loyal witnesses, looking back on it we had some independence working: .

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  I have never worn a lapel card at the DC, and if I am going out to dinner afterwards I hate sitting with anyone who keeps them on. I don't have to worry about this anymore though.

  I didn't even order the calendar, yearbook and daily text for 2013. It is all designed to ramp up the 'us vs them' mentality and keep everyone busy, indoctrinated and burdened with guilt and expectation.

  The daily text is one scripture followed by a chunk of WT article that often has nothing to do with the related text. When they say read the bible daily, they actually mean read the WT daily. I always felt bad about how often I didn't use the daily text book, now I am glad I didn't read it very often. I can see clearly how it is designed to keep everyone's mind controlled, it has a real cult flavour to it.
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  An offer from the Governing Body

  by irondork in

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  the governing body took us along to an unusually high mountain, and showed us all the friends and family members that had been ripped away and they said to us.... .

  all these people we will give back to you if you fall down and do an act of worship to us.

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  Good thread, short but powerful analogy that pretty much sums up the situation.
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  Are we all bitter?

  by LouBelle in

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  i posted a link on fb that lead to a topic here.

  i then had one of my 'friends' start having a go about how bitter everyone is here....fact he said.

  (he used to be a jw elder but left a while back, not sure why he left or if he has even researched the faith since leaving) the more i tried to reason with him that actually it is a support forum, the more he lashed out that everyone here bad mouths the jw's and only attack the jw's.

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  I think the forum is well balanced. There is a definite bitter finish, but I think that is to be expected.

  The bitterness here is pretty rounded. Striaght away I like how seriously fruity the aroma is, think tropical stone fruit or candied pineapple. Then I am hit by sweet malts and caramel upfront, with some toffee and biscuit notes. The finish is a nice orange peel like bitterness. The bitterness is there as it should be, but it is not definitely not harsh, and it is balanced out well by the intial sweetness. All in all a great profile.

  I am just glad I woke up now at 28 rather than 58 or something. I do feel for those that spent the majority of their lives in the religion. Their bitterness is to be expected, but it never dominates the overall supportive and positive feel of this site IMO.
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  2 jws just called on my door

  by l p in

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  i saw them coming down the street...the excitment grew.....then 2 people walked up to my door.... .

  one could hardly speak english...struggling to invite me to the memorial....i said "why should i go".

  they told me ...bec jesus died for everyone just one day a year is very important.... .

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  Sounds like she was excited just to hear that you researched some JW info online, and she feels that soon you will realize that your research leaves no other option except that the JWs have the truth. Any honest examination of her religion will prove it to be the truth, and you are on the way to discovering this.

  You are so close to the truth, you are searching for it, and your almost in it.
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  Raphael Aron in The Age newspaper: Jehovah's Witnesses 'a cruel cult'

  by WinstonSmith in

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  this popped up on the age website today, might have to buy the paper tomorrow..... http://www.theage.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.

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  Reading that has made my day. Bring on the bad publicity.

  How the hell can Vincent Toole say that shunning is a 'myth'. So I can tell the elders tomorrow that I don't believe the religion anymore, and my life and friendships with my JW family and friends continue as normal??! More lies from the WTS. I will quote Vincent to the elders and my family when I finally give up pretending and quit this religion.
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  This Year Will Bring The End (T.F.D.S.) Estephan

  by Este in

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  i witnessed the cleansing of the heavens in the year 2004, like the birth pains of a women, or nine years........ an increase of lawlessness, the economic downfall, the trials and tribulations of the faithful and discreet are being fulfilled as we speak.......prepare for the return of jesus christ........and every eye shall see him........ the slave of jah and of christ....... estephan.

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  When two different people on this forum get conflicting visions from God, I don't know who to believe.
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  Going to the meeting tonight ARGH!!!! So wanna end this pain NOW!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i'm only going to the meeting because of my husband!

  i was 'in' solo for years while living with my unbelieving family and i know how it feels to be the only one in your house going to the meeting.

  i also respect my husband's decision, and know what it's like to have family try to tear down your beliefs.

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  Did you clean the hidden corners of your kitchen before you went to the meeting, to ensure that they are clean and sanitary? That is what house wives do. I learned that from the Jeremiah book this week. What a brilliant illustration from the 'Celebrated Watchtower Scholars'.

  I know exactly how you feel, I still have to attend meetings, but I stopped preaching.
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  Punishment for not shunning?

  by davidsf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so what will happen to a witness if he doesn't shun a disfellowshipped person?

  can he be disfellowshipped himself?

  reproved?

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  That is a disgraceful experience wannabefree. This religion sucks the life out of people's lives.
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  What was the REAL reason for WW1 in 1914? Hmm

  by notjustyet in

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  does anyone know where ctr was really at on june 28th 1914?

  hmmm.

  the lengths someone will go through to not be mocked.. njy.

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  Well it must be true, I saw it on the Internet.
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  Does anybody know how they elect new Governing Body members?

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that "habemus papam", i was wondering how it is that someone in the watchtower becomes a member of the governing body.

  does anybody know?.

  and, how do they choose who gets to be a member of the corporations?.

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  You would have to kiss a lot of ______ or suck a lot of ______ to climb that ladder I would imagine. But it is worth it in the end, because you get to have conversations with Jehovah about policy and procedure.