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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

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  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  I am well aware of the powers of demons and the deception they've played on us for centuries.

  Also I have no clue where you get the idea that there is no evidence of a worldwide flood
  
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  Hi Andromeda.

  I was also a JW and found myself not able to believe what the Wt teaches in regard to 1914. I did some more research and discovered many things.

  The Sabbath day was established in the garden of Eden way before sin came into existence among ourselves. Had we never sinne
  

  There was no 'garden of Eden' and there is no such thing as sin or fall from perfection. No heaven or hell or Angels and Demons and no afterlife.

  It's all quite literally bullshit.
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  Trolley cart "witnessing" is getting ridiculous

  by oppostate in

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  i really fail to see how much actual "witnessing" is occurring with the trolley carts.publishers, usually pioneers, just stand or sit there not engaging anyone and count their time.. the only thing i notice that it's accomplishing is brand exposure for jw.0rg so the public is exposed to the logo and literature/poster card headlines.. take for example this "evening" witnessing by a pioneer elder while on summer holiday/vacation.. .

  is this not a wth kinda moment when you consider the years of slaving, knocking on doors, business territory and bible studies we had to keep performing so we weren't branded a "weak" publisher?.

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  Why don't they just tattoo the JW.Org logo on their bloody foreheads.

  Then they can shut the f**k up.
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  How would the world be different if there were no JWs?

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think this would be a great question to ask active jws.

  they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.

  however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?

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  There would inevitably be more child abusers in a variety of other religions and cults looking for vulnerable victims.
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  "Belief" and "Faith" are Simply Emotional Terms for Ideas and Opinions (long post)

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is my current bottom-line conclusion after starting to see through the jw game 3 to 4 years ago and going through my own process of waking up.

  it helps to write it down and put it "out there".

  i hope it helps or resonates with you in your own personal process.. basically if i were given 10 seconds to say something to an active jehovah's witness that i cared about it would be the headline above.

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  And for the record, every person will definitely have a face to face encounter with God. Everyone.
  

  Thanks for the heads up, I will take record of this.
  

  Sorry I've already dismissed it as complete bullshit.
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  Jeehoober says we can clap for reinstated ones!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. beliefs

  so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!

  evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.

  clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.

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  Well yippee-doo, I'm going back so I can get a round of applause by a group of strangers.
  

  I was hanging out for the return of tea & biscuits after the book study until I made my return, but this applause is to hard to resist.

  I will take a bow and offer a public prayer upon receiving my gratuitous round of applause.
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  Do JWs believe they will be the only people saved at the "end"?

  by LaurenM in

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  2. beliefs

  the answer posted on jw.org: "no.

  many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t jehovah’s witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.

  additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve god, and they too will gain salvation.

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  It's doublespeak, as is every answer on the FAQ section of JW.org. They try to polish nuggets of shit so that they appear shiny to the public.

  It's a fine art and they have obviously spent some considerable cash on trying to present the filthy cult as a more mainstream style religion, although it's becoming obvious they are fooling nobody but themselves.
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  That Most Uneven of Judicial Procedures~The Gradual Lifting of Restriction After Reinstatement

  by TMS in

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  2. beliefs

  those with substantial experience as jws will likely agree that judicial matters are handled with considerable inconsistency.

  elders certainly vary in skill level, understanding, compassion or even knowledge of the talmudlike watchtower rules.

  the punishment and, it is actually punishment, for similar offenses can result in anything from private or public reproof to disfellowshipping or sometimes an elder will choose to simply offer private counsel without even bringing the matter before the body of elders.

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  Elders themselves with a "secret sin" they've been hiding for several years, may even avoid judicial action altogether if its determined that their life shows evidence of "Jehovah's blessing" in the intervening years of concealing the sin. Their theocratic appointment and privileges are considered part of that evidence
  

  Yes, I commented about this little provision on a different thread yesterday, I probably didn't put it as succinctly, I used drugs and hookers to get my point across, your language sounded more like it would straight out of that filthy little book (elders cult instructions manual WT edition).

  I would say congregation privileges are used as punishment and reward by dick elders in every congregation in the world. Myriads of elders get off on having control over these pathetic little assignments they call privileges . How small minded can you get?

  Sisters should also be able to have some congregation privileges, I think my wife has skills to handle a microphone wonderfully.
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  Horror and Paradise For Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteo_jp4aee .

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  The killing of infidels must take place, it's God's will, kill them all and let's enjoy paradise.

  This is what we hear in the OT from Moses and his followers, and from ISIS and their members today and also from Bro Ciro Aulicino and the dedicated members of the WTS.

  Nothing says religion like genocide really.
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  They Don't Have A Secret Elder's Book

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.

  "all of our publications are open to everyone.

  we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".

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  I think the real gem in that shitty book is the way the elders can basically get away with doing anything, as long as time passes and it goes unnoticed.

  The provision in the book allows for elders to remain serving if they admit to previous serious sins, as long as the sins are not known in the congregation and the elder has successfully been leading a double life. Get your slap on the wrist and continue lording it over others and being a hypocrite.

  They could have cocaine and prostitute addictions, that is not the issue, they just need to keep the 'appearance' of a having a clean congregation. If the elder has kept his sins secret and still has the respect of the flock, he can remain.

  Let's be honest, this is the the WTS, the elders could technically rape children and get away with it, because of loopholes created to protect their image. Sadly this is the reality of what goes on when men are allowed to let delusional ideas fester.

  What a loving provision!