before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?
millions of years passed before man and sin.
(let that sink in a few seconds.........).
I don't know what faith in God vs. chance has to do with the dinosaurs.
I'm actually disappointed in this thread, I thought the title was a punchline to a Flintstones joke, like, "What does Fred spend the whole night doing after eating a double-Brontosaurus Burger at the drive-in?"
before man....before the adam/eve saga.......how would you explain the nature of life on earth in terms of sin?
millions of years passed before man and sin.
(let that sink in a few seconds.........).
The dinosaurs were created in order to give us fossil fuels millions of years later. They died for our sins.
jw's claim to be god-fearing, faithful, spiritual people with a unique special personal relationship with god (jehovah).. yet, so much of what they do is just fro show, an outward appearance of holiness and faithfulness:.
) shunning- an organization-sanctioned shunning policy publicly "outs" the shunned and puts pressure on members to cary out the shunning.
why is this necessary if they truly have faith in god and that he sees all and nothing is hidden from his view?
I remember wondering at a young age what was so wrong with beards. There was a nice older man in the congregation who everyone seemed to like and respect, and he had a beard -- although he also didn't have any responsibilities in the congregation. But he was referred to as Brother ____. Now I wonder what his story was; could he have been an old-timer, a Russellite who went along with things as far as he agreed with, but took a quiet stand against the more Pharisaical aspects of the modern organization? Or did he just really like his beard?
watch this video, posted on jw.org.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjvxobvi5a.
here is my article in response.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-60-million-away-from-liquidation.
looking forward to hearing your thoughts!.
It isn't my video
Ha, okay, I thought that was your account. It'll still leave a black hole in the middle of your article when it goes down, but I guess I should just mind my own business and let you run your site :)
I agree that Pons was referring to the French HQ, but that's still a bit startling to hear. Thanks for pointing it out, cedars.
from nigerian newspaper via google alert a few minutes ago;.
entire family, 20 others die in fatal accidenttragedy struck weekend in akwa ibom state as a man, his wife and all their children, as well as more than 20 others, all members of the jehovahs witness church, perished in a fatal road accident which occurred, friday, along the utu etim ekpo road in etim ekpo local government area of the state.. forty other members of the church sustained varying degrees of injuries following in the crash which occurred on their way to the jehovahs witness annual convention ground in ikot ekpene local government area of the state.. thisdays gathered that more than 70 members of the church had hired a lorry to convey them from ukanafun local government area to ikot ekpene for the annual district convention which began on friday and billed to end today (sunday) but the journey ended half way with many members of the church dying on the road in the accident.. eyewitnesses alleged that the driver of the lorry conveying the church members to the venue of the convention lost control of the vehicle when he got to utu etim ekpo, the junction opposite the local government secretariat, and hit the stone used to construct the roundabout, thus resulting in the lorry somersaulting, leaving many of its passengers and others wounded.. the corpses and those injured in the accident were said to have been taken to neighbouring hospitals and mortuaries.. one of the eyewitnesses, mr. friday john, said the people who died may have been more than what was seen because a whole family including parents and their children were all trapped in the accident.. we were all here discussing when suddenly the lorry appeared and was looking like the driver had lost control of it.
then the lorry drove straight and hit the stone and somersaulted into the gutter.. many people died, more than 18. in fact, we couldnt count the number because there were many corpses, including husband, wife and children and they were all taken to the mortuary in various hospitals near etim ekpo here, john explained.. in another narration, a secondary school teacher in eka uruk eshiet etim ekpo, mr. ndipmo nkanta, said the lorry boarded by the deceased and the injured passengers was not meant for passengers but goods only.. he blamed the accident on poverty , arguing that if there was a better alternative, such casualties wouldnt have been recorded, especially as they were going to worship god.. the public relations officer of the federal road safety corps, frsc, in the state, mr. godsgift uwen, blamed the incident on over-speeding and overloading by the driver of the lorry.. he said the lorry was not supposed to carry any passenger as it was a meant for goods only but the driver stubbornly used it as a passengers vehicle, which led to the sad incident.. he advised against rush and drunken driving, especially in the yuletide, noting that these are some of the major causes of accidents on the roads.. culled from thisday".
Wasn't the "we avoided a plane crash because we were at a meeting" story from the SAME country, too? (I'll answer my own question: yes.) Not that it matters, just that it makes their YB story even more bitterly ironic.
as listed in 2013 yearbook.. yes, most countries have increases in congregations.
most of the countries that have less congregations than last year, show 1 or 2 less.
however, poland shows a dramatic 327 congregations less, from 1,814 (2011) to 1,487. netherlands, 25 less congregations.
What the hell happened in Poland??
Isn't it obvious? During the double-checking process, the lead brother was supposed to assign each of the countries to various members of his team to verify the numbers. But he forgot about Poland. Sorry, I'll let myself out.
watch this video, posted on jw.org.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjvxobvi5a.
here is my article in response.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-60-million-away-from-liquidation.
looking forward to hearing your thoughts!.
Just reading your article now... but you realize your embedded video is going to get DMCA'd hard and fast, right?
jw's claim to be god-fearing, faithful, spiritual people with a unique special personal relationship with god (jehovah).. yet, so much of what they do is just fro show, an outward appearance of holiness and faithfulness:.
) shunning- an organization-sanctioned shunning policy publicly "outs" the shunned and puts pressure on members to cary out the shunning.
why is this necessary if they truly have faith in god and that he sees all and nothing is hidden from his view?
Jesus said everything that needs to be said on this subject in Matthew chapter 23. A little excerpt as a memory aid: " 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel."
first up, happy new year .
hi everyone, ok i guess this is controversial, but im doing it as therapy for me - so im not bitter about the way i was raised.
plus i want to see if i can be the op of an "epic thread"!!.
When I was a child, we had a lot of fun at cong. picnics, and I played ball in a cong. "little league" composed of boys my age. As we got older, the gatherings became smaller and more infrequent, and the other boys left the "truth". Oh, and I enjoyed the coziness of the Book Study and getting to wear sweaters on those nights.
Overall, I had an all right upbringing, but little of that was due to the JWs. I am, however, thankful for the aspects of the Christian personality that I was encouraged to develop. I wouldn't necessarily have been a wild child, but having those rules, and a hope for the future (albeit one based on false premises, as I found out later), kept me perhaps a bit more stable than I would have been otherwise. However, I'm afraid that cancels out with the depression I felt as a teenager just because I was feeling normal teenager feelings about girls, and how I thought I was going to die at Armageddon as a result.
Thus, overall, if I could choose not to have been brought up that way, I would, but to some extent it was a nice cocoon to live in as a child. I didn't hate the meetings or field service, or all the rules, or being different from my classmates. Obviously, for some people (ahem, perfect1), this upbringing may have been more traumatic.
on the plus side there was good council about families and then there is that special feeling of the brotherhood you get.. on the negative side, the d.o.
gave the "ol talk about the "busier we are, it won't seem like the new world is taking so long" talk.
that's fine if you do'nt work for a living.
Irrational, pharisaical, holier-than-thou, capricious teachings coming from individual COs who revel in their authority is a great example of why I now know that this isn't God's organization. In other words, what a @%$&ing idiot.
