Apognophos

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  What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

  by megaflower in

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  "we should be mindful".

  grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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  "In actuality."

  I'm pretty sure we already have a word for that expression: "actually". Or "really". Or "in fact". I mean, seriously, who talks like that besides Witnesses?
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  What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

  by megaflower in

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  "we should be mindful".

  grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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  Heh, yes, I also hate the "those who are able to stand" remark.
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  Question on In Vitro fertilization - quote from 12/15/12 WT

  by sd-7 in

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  12/15/12 wt p. 15:.

  "in a variation that some term 'embryo adoption,' the embryos placed in a wife's womb involve neither her eggs nor her husband's sperm.

  in yet another variation, a married couple's eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by ivf.

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  Oh, wow, I didn't know that, Fencing. I finally just read the article. They don't state that it's implantation that makes it a life, but instead they draw a comparison between thawing the embryos and thus allowing them to die, and taking someone off life support and thus allowing them to die. So they are basically saying that, yes, any fertilized egg is a life, but if the parents aren't in a position to have all those embryos become children, they can allow them to die by thawing them, much as it's acceptable to take someone off life support if they show no sign of recovery. I'm not really sure that they are comparing apples to apples here, but that's the explanation.
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  JW businessman's email about the UN and false religion

  by Las Malvinas son Argentinas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was shown a hard copy of an email from a purported jw businessman who claimed he had contact with some un officials as part of his 'business'.

  in conversation, he claimed that he blurted out and asked them when they were going to clamp down on religion as foretold in jw prophecy.

  according to the account, the un official acted startled, and asked 'how do you know?'.

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  Thanks for that link, Bangalore, that was the version of the story I was trying to describe on page 1, where someone was giving a talk to the UN for some poorly defined reason. I am pretty sure I heard that tale from the platform on at least one occasion.
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  What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

  by megaflower in

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  "we should be mindful".

  grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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  truthseeker already said it, but I'm only just now noticing how weird the expression "get-together" is. Apparently Witnesses are afraid of the word "party" because of its licentious connotations. Then again, since "get-togethers" were rarely fun, mostly just standing around pretending to be interested in the conversation you were having and wondering how soon you could excuse yourself by going to refill your cup at the drinks table, it would have sullied the word "party" to apply it to those gatherings.
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  Did you hear Jw's swear?

  by highdose in

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  i know that what counts as swearing differs alot from region to region, amongst the words i heard used were "crap, bloody, shit, git, bastard, bitch" and the dubs who used these words would say that they didn't belive they were swear words at all!.

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  I'll take your word for it, I didn't do a lot of socializing with the congregation. Not with small groups, anyway, just the usual big get-togethers.
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  Vengeance Dad Meme--I think I want to do some JW-based ones...

  by sd-7 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i was just reading some random memes and came across this one.

  it's truly insane, but maybe my sense of humor is such that i laughed rather hard at quite a few of the ones using this photo.

  i was thinking, how could i adapt this one to jws?

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  Haha, great! But, are there broken picture links in your last post?
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  Did you hear Jw's swear?

  by highdose in

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  i know that what counts as swearing differs alot from region to region, amongst the words i heard used were "crap, bloody, shit, git, bastard, bitch" and the dubs who used these words would say that they didn't belive they were swear words at all!.

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  To be clear, for those who aren't familiar with MPAA ratings, "PG" allows for words like "hell", "damn", and "ass", but nothing stronger. However, lately, G-rated movies can get away with one usage of such a word without getting bumped up to PG.

  Anyway, my cong. was also counseled from time to time not to use euphemisms like the ones you posted, blondie, so for instance, "Oh my gosh" and "jeez" were not okay, but if someone let one slip in casual conversation, nobody would jump on them for it. Some other even more removed euphemisms were considered okay, but those might be shibboleths local to my congregation, and I'm trying to stay undercover here for now. But I definitely don't recall ever hearing an s-word or f-word from anyone in my three or so decades around Witnesses.
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  Does the WTBS emphasize these two verses for control?

  by cog_survivor in

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  2. beliefs

  something i came to understand that the worldwide church of god did effectively was to cut people off from from their feelings and intellect in favor of the "appropriate" thoughts and feelings.. how they did this was by frequently emphasizing these two verses:.

  proverbs 3:5 - trust in the lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.. jeremiah 17:9 - the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?.

  by means of these two verses i was taught not to trust myself with regards to either my ability to reason or if my gut was telling me something was wrong.. i was wondering if these two verses were emphasized for jws as well..

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  Fascinating, thanks for the post, cog_survivor. I shouldn't be surprised that other groups relied on these verses too, and yet I am. As a born-in, I'm used to thinking that Witnesses are totally unique from other groups. In the interest of a fair comparison, I wonder how many times these verses are used in mainstream Xian religions (is there a way to search through, say, Catholic literature for citations?).

  Incidentally, I used to wonder about that "heart" scripture... if our hearts are so untrustworthy, how are we supposed to trust any decisions we make at all? After all, our service to God is not supposed to be based on just intellect, but rather heartfelt. So how do we know which feelings from our heart to trust? (Of course the answer is "The GB will tell you.")
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  Question on In Vitro fertilization - quote from 12/15/12 WT

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12/15/12 wt p. 15:.

  "in a variation that some term 'embryo adoption,' the embryos placed in a wife's womb involve neither her eggs nor her husband's sperm.

  in yet another variation, a married couple's eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by ivf.

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  The more I think about this, the more it is simply madness.

  I agree. I see some things on here get blown out of proportion from time to time, but this really is borderline insane. To equate embryo implantation with 'giving one's emission to another's wife', let alone to call a non-sexual act porneia... I bet this has stumbled a number of R&F believers.