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  I'm having a crisis of decision on my masters major. Help!!

  by White Dove in

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  i've heard some pretty nasty things about the social work field, such as little benefits, low pay, no respect, inefectiveness, undertrained supervisors, etc.

  now i worry if i'm getting into the wrong field.

  i want to be in a helping field but need money and benefits.

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  Can you switch to something in the medical field? Or counseling?
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  I'm having a crisis of decision on my masters major. Help!!

  by White Dove in

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  i've heard some pretty nasty things about the social work field, such as little benefits, low pay, no respect, inefectiveness, undertrained supervisors, etc.

  now i worry if i'm getting into the wrong field.

  i want to be in a helping field but need money and benefits.

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  My daughter-in-law was a social worker for several years. You either have to learn not to care too much about your clients (many of whom are either children or have children) and the mess they continue to make of their lives despite everything you do for them, or you become a basket case yourself. Many of your cases will break your heart, especially the ones involving children.

  You've got to learn to leave the job behind when you go home at night, to have your mind clear and relaxed so that you can have a normal home life. And yes, the pay is really poor and the hours long. We need good social workers, though, so if you can do it, more power to you.

  SusanHere
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  NASA announces new discovery May 14th

  by joebin in

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  nasa will announce the discovery of an object in our galaxy astronomers have been hunting for more than 50 years.

  tune in on may 14, at 1 p.m. edt.. some hope they will announce discovery of nibiru.

  http://chandra.harvard.edu/.

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  Well? What is it going to be? Any clues?

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  The Other 9-11 - Mormon Massacre

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  probably many of you have heard of this, but i just found out.

  interesting how the mormons reacted to one of their members requesting that they make a "full confession and take the consequences.

  " also the statement by john d. lee that they were performing a religious "duty.".

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  The MMM was hardly a hidden event from an historical point of view. Nine men were indicted for their role in the massacre. Most of them were eventually arrested, though only Lee was executed for the crime, as he had been the one who actually led the attack.

  At no time did Lee have the backing of Brigham Young or any other of the Church leadership. When Cedar City's Stake President Isaac Haight sent an urgent dispatch to Pres. Young explaining the situation with the approaching wagon train and asking for direction on how to handle it, Brigham Young responded immediately.

  Brigham Young's reply was to leave the train alone, harm none of them, let them pass.

  Pres. Young's letter reached Haight two days after the massacre. When Haight read Young's words, he sobbed like a child and could only manage the words, "Too late, too late."

  It has been said by some that nothing happened in the Utah Territory that BY didn't know about. Maybe there is some truth to that. But the distance was four days by fast horse. There were no telegraph lines, no phones, no cell phones. Brigham Young did know about the massacre of the wagan train, but not until after it happened. How can he be held accountable for that?

  Nor can the Church as a whole be blamed for what a few men chose to do, without the authority or direction of the leadership. Throughout Church history up to that point, the Mormons had not fought back, but had only defended themselves when attacked, and not even always that. Many times they were forced by armed mobs to simply abandon the communities, farms, and homes they had built up out of nothing, such as the beautiful brick city of Nauvoo which had been created out of swamp land nobody wanted and which still stands today.

  The Mormons had been driven from state to state, had suffered many murders, rapes, beatings of men, women, and children. Even the Haun's Mill massacre, described above by DoubleEdge, went totally unavenged. None of the murderers were ever brought to justice. Children were in that mill when the mob opened fire. One child was shot point blank. That was just one horrific, monsterous act perpetrated against the Mormons for which justice has never been done, and retribution never made. One of many, spread out over decades.

  The Mormons are the only religious group EVER in the history of the United States to have an Extermination Order issued against them making it legal to murder any member of the LDS Church who was found within the borders of that state, for no reason at all other than that they were LDS. That order was not rescinded until recently, when Missouri issued a formal apology.

  Does this part of American history make you proud to be an American?

  How many of you who are so bitter against the JWs would support an extermination order against all JWs living in your state? How many of you would eagerly take up guns, clubs, stones, or even use your bare hands to murder the JWs living on your street? "Nits make lice" said the man who stared into the terrified eyes of the Mormon child at Haun's Mill, then pulled the trigger in cold blood. Maybe you could say "Nits make lice" as you shoot your neighbor's JW young child, and then sleep peacefully, knowing you'd done your "God-given duty".

  Is that the America you'd like to live in?

  There is no defense for the Mountain Meadows Massacre. None. It was a tragedy that Brigham Young did not know about in advance and did not authorize. It was committed by a few local men who had no authority. They acted on their own.

  They had also, along with almost all other LDS, left the United States to find refuge in Mexico, which is what Utah was at that time. Again they built a community where nobody else wanted the land, only this time they were free of persecution, for the first time ever.

  In 1957, the year of MMM, the US Army marched 1,500 troops towards what had become Utah Territory, to put down what they perceived as treason in Utah from the Saints who had good reason not to support the US government interferring in their lives. The Saints believed, with good cause given past history, that the Army was coming to oppress them, to drive them from their lands and community, or even to destroy them.

  At the same time, immigrant trains were going westward from Missouri and Illinois, with many of the same men who had previously participated in violently driving the Saints from their homes in those states.

  Given the history, it was an explosive situation, with a tragic outcome all but certain.

  So why isn't this part in the movie some find to be so enjoyable? Because the movie wasn't intended to be factual, though of course it advertised itself as telling, for the first time ever in the history of the world, the "long-hidden secret cannot-be-told-under-penalty-of death-by-the -Danite's-avenging-angels" story of the MMM.

  Some people just cannot get enough of supposedly "dark hidden secrets revealed for the first time" and will gladly part with their money to go see the movie or read the book. They really prefer that version to the plain truth. It's so much more fun.

  In truth, the MMM is well-known. There have been many books written about it from many different perspectives, some more accurate and factual than others. More will be printed in the future. For a secret, it's sure out there. The Extermination Order and its recscinding in our own time is a far bigger secret. Funny nobody knows about that. Even more strange that nobody cares. But after all, it was only Mormons being killed. Who cares about them? It's not like they were part of YOUR religion.

  During the past two decades, descendants and other relatives of the MMM emigrants and the perpetrators of the tragedy have at times worked together to memorialize the victims. Has anyone done that for Haun's Mill victims? No.

  The MMM efforts have had the support of President Gordon B. Hinkley (LDS President), officials of the state of Utah, and other inistitutions and individuals. Among the products of this cooperation have been the construction of two memorials at the massacre site and the placing of plaques commemorating the immigrants. Descendant groups, Church leaders and members, and civic officials continue to work toward reconcilliation and participated in various memorial services in September, 2007, the 150th anniversery of the MMM.

  There are some massacre victim's descendants and collateral relatives who are LDS today. They have given interviews of late, wanting people to understand how they can be both descended from the victims and LDS Church members. While they feel sorrow for what happened to their ancestors or relatives, they refuse to blame the Church, the LDS people, or the state for the acts of a few men who had been pushed beyond their ability to cope other than with the same savagery that had been shown to them and their families for so many years.

  This entire chapter of American History is tragic. It all could have been handled so much better. We can not undo the past, but we can learn from it. One crucial lesson to take from all this is to refuse to act as a mob against our neighbors because of the color of their skin, their religion, their accent, or any other reason weak-minded men think up on dark nights when fueled by liquid courage and spurred on by those who preach hate, intolerance and vengence.

  We all like to think we are above such actions, that we would never be party to them. Can you be so sure? Can you really?

  Maybe you just haven't been pushed far enough yet. Pray that you never are.

  SusanHere
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  Scamed on Ebay

  by noni1974 in

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  i bought what was advertized as a sapphire and diamond 10 k ring.what i got was a coustume plated fake gold fake sapphire fake diamond ring.i was also way over charged for shipping.i was charged $14.99 and i asked the seller if it would be insured for that price.they said it would be.they paid $1.13 for the shipping and no insurance.. .

  i've made a report to both ebay and paypal.i'm thinking of reporting it to my visa card company.now i'm waiting for the seller to reply to me.now what?

  ?i'm new to this ebay thing.should i shipp it back to the seller?

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  UGH!!!

  I did it again! Please ignore this bumping to the front. I don't know why this came up as "next page" when it was an old posting.

  Please ignore.

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  Scamed on Ebay

  by noni1974 in

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  i bought what was advertized as a sapphire and diamond 10 k ring.what i got was a coustume plated fake gold fake sapphire fake diamond ring.i was also way over charged for shipping.i was charged $14.99 and i asked the seller if it would be insured for that price.they said it would be.they paid $1.13 for the shipping and no insurance.. .

  i've made a report to both ebay and paypal.i'm thinking of reporting it to my visa card company.now i'm waiting for the seller to reply to me.now what?

  ?i'm new to this ebay thing.should i shipp it back to the seller?

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  Noni --

  Sorry to hear of your bad experience. I had one where a Christmas gift turned out to be plastic trash. I sent it back but never got a refund. It happens, but not often. I've had less than 1% bad deals, buying or selling, on eBay. That's better than ordering out of any catalog.

  I've gotten some fantastic deals, like the book I received last week. You take your chances, but I've rarely been anything other than totally delighted with the eBay experience.

  So don't give up yet!

  SusanHere
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  On National Public Radio Today: This I Believe

  by BurnTheShips in

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  i enjoyed today's essay on the "this i believe" segment, just wanted to share it.

  my wife turned me on to a local charity.

  i am considering ways i can help too.

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  When we lived in California several different churches banded together to provide a free meal once a week to the homeless people living in a public park. We'd cook the meal at home, then my husband and sons would take it to the park and serve it free to any who were there.

  This made quite an impression on our sons, who saw the homeless up close, spoke with them, and served them one to one. One of my sons was deeply troubled to see a man walking in the rain and the mud, with no shoes and barely enough clothes to keep warm. Those Saturday meals changed his world view forever.

  Compassion comes through service. There's never a shortage of ways to ease the burdens of others.

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  Renegade Mormons - Abuse of Children- Broken Bones -Many Girls Pregnant

  by flipper in

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  how long will religions claiming to worship god - tolerate the abuse of children , and try to hide it ?

  catholics, jehovah's witnesses, mormons - my wife and i discussed it and i'm starting to feel that there is something about the stunted views of religions about sex in general that creates these monsters of sexual child abuse !

  do we not just hear about the non-religious child abusers ?

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  Shawn said, The LDS Church tells its members that these two cities are actually “suburbs” of each other. This is not true! Bethlehem and Jerusalem are about eight miles apart from each other.

  LOL! Wow, a whole eight miles? WOW!

  Guess what? I live six miles outside the county seat. When in the large city 100 miles away, guess where I say we live? In this little pass-through blink and you'll miss it berg, or the larger town only six miles away? Who in the large city knows the name of this tiny berg? About one in 10,000 if that. Who knows the name of the county seat? Everyone.

  So that's here, in our own time, our own state, with television, newspapers and all. When we lived in California, we lived in Orange County. When in another state such as Hawaii, Arizona, or Washington DC, would we name the small town in Orange County CA as where we were from? I guarantee not one in a thousand in this room would know it by name. No, we would say we were from LA. Everyone knew where LA was.

  We often met people "from New York". How many were actually from the city? Within city boundries? Not a lot. When pressed further, they would name another town, close by. Some place we'd never know by name.

  The Book of Mormon people were on another continent, another time, without benefit of our modern technology. I find no fault with naming the larger city that they would all know the name of rather than the obscure smaller berg which is what Bethlehem of that time was.

  Eight whole miles!!! LOL

  We were an hour outside of LA and that was with fast cars, and yet we claimed it, as did most travelers.

  This is such a lovely example of anti-mormons grasping at straws.

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  Saddest Kentucky Derby ever

  by JK666 in

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  i was rooting for eight belles, the only filly in the field.

  the gutsy gal came in 2nd, but broke both front legs.

  she was euthanized immediately.

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  Other countries don't understand -- and neither do I -- how we can claim to love animals, fight for animal rights, etc., and still allow the racing of BABIES.

  Those racehorses are often two or three years old when running full out on the track. There's no way their juvenile bones can take the stress. This should be illegal.

  When we lived in California and were into horses, including raising our own, we looked at several horses on the market with pin-fired legs. Want to see something sad? Check out what that entails. It's done to strengthen the legs prematurely to allow racing of juvenile horses.

  If we as a nation truly have compassion for animals, why are we allowing immature horses to be raced?

  SusanHere

  P.S. Just for comparison, the average steeplechaser (jumper) doesn't begin full training until they are eight years old. When the Olympics are on, check out the ages of the competition horses. They will all be over eight years old.
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  Why did Abel offer "fatty pieces" to Yahweh?

  by easyreader1970 in

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  from my understanding--at least from my instruction from the wbts--humans were not permitted to eat meat by yahweh until after the flood.

  if that is true, then why would abel offer tasty, delicious "fatty pieces" to yahweh?

  how would abel even know how to cut up an animal for food and know which parts were the best for eating?.

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  Thanks easyreader1970. This was one JW doctrine I wasn't familiar with.

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