I would be locked up because a couple of elders had had their heads ripped off by moi! And then the heads placed in the stupid plastic flower arrangments on the stupid platform! Just saying...
GA
do you think you would be just going thru the motions?
would you be an elder, ms, or pioneer?.
i think there are many that stay in the religion simply because of family/friends considerations.
I would be locked up because a couple of elders had had their heads ripped off by moi! And then the heads placed in the stupid plastic flower arrangments on the stupid platform! Just saying...
GA
after reading the thread soon to be 18 and quit speaking to her mother- suggestions?, i started thinking of how to use the wtbts's doctrine to help jws to see what is the real purpose of shunning for the wtbts.
hopefully, some good ideas will be posted to this thread and may help exjws and jws to maintain relationships with each other instead of shunning the non-jws.. how would a jw react to the following?.
do christians shun or not associate with non-jws to help non-jws believe that the wtbts has the "truth", to keep the cong clean of non-believers, or to not be shunned?
Just like I told my step brother who is trying his best to shun his Dad, i wont stand by and watch you hurt anyone in this family. I will not condone such bad behavior, nor will i encourage it by not saying anything. Every week I phone him and ask if he has phoned Dad lately.
This weekend he is coming to visit Dad for the first time in 8 months. Be straight with them, get in there first before a pattern of shunning can develop. Make them aware you are watching their behavior and will not put up with it.
If you use their doctrine, they will simply find another doctrine to use against you.
Be human about it! Confront them on a one to one. No wiggle room.
GA
hello everyone, i know you have heard this topic before and your probably thinking.
...not again lol.. but i was wondering if anyone has thought of going back for the same reasons as myself, i don't think its the truth but i searched and my conclusion is that other religions don't have the truth, they are all wrong in my opinion.
if there is no other religion to go too, why leave were i was born and raised.
How can you let yourself condone lies? Lying to yourself as well as others is you trying to avoid pain. For now. But the pain will build and burden you and will eventually destroy whatever concsience you have left.
Why be that disrespectful to yourself?
GA
what things did you do when your left the borg?
what things are on your "to do" list when you get away?.
this is mine, now i am out;.
What things did you do when your left the Borg? What things are on your "to do" list when you get away?
This is mine, now I am out;
1) Join a gun club
2) Go to a swinging group
3) Get a tattoo (I have days when I do want one and some I don't!!!!)
Fixed for you Quelly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cj6ho1-g6tw&vq=medium.
genesis 11:6.
Yup, was awesome! Another event coming next year, pedalforscotland.org has details to enter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cj6ho1-g6tw&vq=medium.
genesis 11:6.
I rode with Danny at a fixie event in Edinburgh. He can do things with a bike that are beyond physics and my imagination. He's suffering quite a bit with long term injuries at the mo, so its not without cost to him.
GA
in ancient times , o.t.speak, god dealt with humans in a variety of ways , dreams ,visions ,prophets,and prophetesses , then apparently 2000 years ago he must have said, i`m not doing this anymore.they , my followers will just have to beleive and put faith in what has been written down up untill the 20th century of the common era.
approximately 4000 years of human history where god has communicated with humans .
if you beleive that .. their has been no communication between god , with any human , whether by dreams , visions , or prophets , for the past 2000 years.. and may i add, their has been no communication from jesus during these past 2000 years either, giving us enlightend /updates about his sayings /prophecys that he gave while on earth 2000 years ago.. please explain.. smiddy.
So Tec, you dont have visions? Yet christ talks to you in your dreams? Maybe christs visual wire is unplugged and he can only do audio? I am just trying to understand.
GA
my story is long, heart stopping, tragic, and puzzling.
since i posted what was said to be my last post, i received a private message which sparked my attention about the watchtower.
immediately i did research, and have found not only proof from outside sources, but the watchtower openly admitting it.
Hi Mike, great to have you back! You can find refreshment for your soul here. And some answers. Not all of them, but some.
Because the WT treat people like idiots, it stands to reason there will be some here. We do all love you however! Keep asking, keep searching, life is just beginning.
GA
in ancient times , o.t.speak, god dealt with humans in a variety of ways , dreams ,visions ,prophets,and prophetesses , then apparently 2000 years ago he must have said, i`m not doing this anymore.they , my followers will just have to beleive and put faith in what has been written down up untill the 20th century of the common era.
approximately 4000 years of human history where god has communicated with humans .
if you beleive that .. their has been no communication between god , with any human , whether by dreams , visions , or prophets , for the past 2000 years.. and may i add, their has been no communication from jesus during these past 2000 years either, giving us enlightend /updates about his sayings /prophecys that he gave while on earth 2000 years ago.. please explain.. smiddy.
I agree Bill, endless whinging but never a proper answer to a perfectly legitimate question! Come on Tec! Have you noticed how these floaty jesus lovers NEVER answer a direct question?
in ancient times , o.t.speak, god dealt with humans in a variety of ways , dreams ,visions ,prophets,and prophetesses , then apparently 2000 years ago he must have said, i`m not doing this anymore.they , my followers will just have to beleive and put faith in what has been written down up untill the 20th century of the common era.
approximately 4000 years of human history where god has communicated with humans .
if you beleive that .. their has been no communication between god , with any human , whether by dreams , visions , or prophets , for the past 2000 years.. and may i add, their has been no communication from jesus during these past 2000 years either, giving us enlightend /updates about his sayings /prophecys that he gave while on earth 2000 years ago.. please explain.. smiddy.
Hi Tec. What do you see in these visions and dreams? What does christ say to you?
Cheers GA