for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?
why?.
I like the English Standard Version best since it is a pretty good mixture of word for word translation and thought for thought.
From the biblical unitarian perspective, and one that retains the use of Gods name in the text I like the Revised English Version.
Matthew 1, REV Bible and Commentary (revisedenglishversion.com)
grace gough (“mouthy’) sent me 83 cassette tapes 16 years ago (2006).. .
when she sent them, i understood them to be ‘testimonies’ of jws who became christians.
there are some labeled “so-and-so’s testimony” so at least some are that.. others appear to be talks, like the morning session of the 1981 “ex –jws for jesus” convention.
Also interested
the new head-of-the-house max has a problem with how his new stepdaughter (olivia) looks and dresses.. on the friday afternoon part 2 convention video @ 18:10 max 1st brings it up with olivia while in the kitchen!
then fast forward to 26:50 thru 27:65 max bellyaches to new wife (olivia's mother) & it's handled!
message to all rank & file jws....no more fashion torn jeans & beach sandles: :) :) :).
when were flip flops mentioned?
stumbled on this video online.
looks like the entire wt library is online and available via login access.
read some comments and presenter was a bethel insider so he had special access.
so how are we going to get someone from the service departments login????
gotta be a pimo somewhere that would give (misplace) their info
2021 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 87. .
number of lands reporting: 239. .
dont get distracted by the percentages dudes. . .
from 2019 till 2021 they a peak membership increase of only 3800 people
from 2019 till 2021 the average membership only increased 9100
This is after billions of hours have been expended to recruit more members and changing how they count active publishers. To top it off let's be real, most of us know in the western countries, at least, it just born ins getting baptized.
i’m reservations, pimo elder.
i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?
any ideas?.
I haven't seen this answer really pop up thus far, but if you need to continue the pimo life for a while. I would boldly and bluntly put up front the Orgs more ridiculous doctrines that get buried in couched language and the barrages of "send more money and do more service."
Things that are in line with official doctrine but stated more plainly to highlight the absurdity. . .
"Remember brothers that we are still waiting for Christs third return."(1st century physical, 1914 invisible, 3rd time as Michael/ visible but spirit realm??)
"We need to keep in mind since as members of the great crown, we do not have Christ as our mediator it is important we rely on the faithful slave to have a relationship with Jehovah."
"Since about 2007 we now know the heavenly calling WAS NOT closed in 1935, we should not be suspicious of those who newly begin partaking."
The Christian Greek scriptures were not written for us since we are not anointed of spirit.
The great crowd aren't baptized into or a part of the body or Christ, we are baptized into an organization.
We aren't the adopted as children of God since we aren't part of the body of Christ, remember Jehovah is not our Father yet, we just hope to be his friends.
These types of things. . . .
I also love when 4 CLEARLY different generations of family is gathered, and pointing out Great Grandma and Baby are actually 1 generation since their lives overlap. lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203474749415.
im a watchtower/bible students history nerd.
i find the movement that engulfed my entire family fascinating.
and Phizzy, if you happen to have it in pdf form, perhaps give a link so we can all read it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203474749415.
im a watchtower/bible students history nerd.
i find the movement that engulfed my entire family fascinating.
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Im a watchtower/bible students history nerd. I find the movement that engulfed my entire family fascinating. So while I was looking for old literature I came across the book "Beyond the Watchtower" by Joseph and Elizabeth Taze Malik.
Any body have any info on them or this particular book? I never heard of it and don't know if its the typical story of witnesses who woke up or if they were anyone out of ordinary due to the high asking price of the book?
The unique author names give me an inkling that they may have been of the ilk, that some are, when they leave the Jws and start thinking they are prophets themselves.
i have seen the messages posted about the w.h.
conley subject... and i have think that maybe somebody in this forum can help me with the following.
i have searched the watchtower reprints volumes and what i need is any other information.
commenting so i can find t a later date
does anybody know if the borg has ever done any articles on what day of the week they think jesus died?
i know most denominations think it was friday and i have also heard somewhat sensible arguments that it could be wednesday.
not that it matters weather one in a believer or not even.
Michael Grant:
we can no more reject Jesus' existence than we can reject the existence
of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is
never questioned. ..... In recent years, 'no serious scholar has
ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very
few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger,
indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.
EP Sanders:
Historical reconstruction is never absolutely certain, and in the case
of Jesus it is sometimes highly uncertain. Despite this, we have a good
idea of the main lines of his ministry and his message. We know who he
was, what he did, what he taught, and why he died. ..... the dominant
view [among scholars] today seems to be that we can know pretty well
what Jesus was out to accomplish, that we can know a lot about what he
said, and that those two things make sense within the world of
first-century Judaism.
