i am confused about the time scale regarding the year of the destruction of jerusalem.
in the 1st october 2011 watchtower an argument is presented to back up 607 bc but there are so many conflicting arguments that this happened 20 years later according to secular sources.
your thoughts please..
https://www.kristenfrihet.se/english/epage.ht
That is Carl Olof Johnssons site, it is in multiple languages and without a doubt the most outstanding single place to go for research on the 607 debacle. It has the entire Gentile Times Reconsidered pdf version for free as well.
former bethel new york location to become the most luxereous 'private park' and residence.do you think it is symbolic that there will be no trace of the iconic watchtower left?
🤔😉https://nypost.com/2019/06/05/brooklyn-is-getting-a-massive-new-park-but-theres-a-catch/original public post at https://www.facebook.com/nrkoppe/posts/1881062705326669
Your going a little a little type/ antitype us bud hahaha
so the borg has put up the attendance and baptism figured from the miami and atlanta international conventions.. amazing growth!.
atlanta - 46,374 peak attendance / baptized 314.
0.67% growth.
has anyody ever wondered what couldve happened if ray, and the other long timers that left, never gave up their shares??.
they obviously don't sell stock anymore either, but how do those who have possession of watchtower stock even come to have it?
and are they just told who to vote in for the corparate positions at this point?.
Has anyody ever wondered what couldve happened if Ray, and the other long timers that left, never gave up their shares??
They obviously don't sell stock anymore either, but how do those who have possession of Watchtower stock even come to have it? And are they just told who to vote in for the Corparate positions at this point?
i know ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing.
it is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.
from the very first pages of "crisis of conscience" it seemed as though ray was writing to me.
This is a bit different subject and maybe I should make a topic on it, but has anyody ever wondered what couldve happened if Ray, and the other long timers that left, never gave up their shares??
i believe there are some breakaway groups in different parts of the world ,however i think they are small sects and fall under the radar so to speak.
either jw`s or ibsa ?.
does anybody here know of any and have any information about them ?
The Free Bible Students were a group that did their own thing even while Russell was still in charge, they came into being for the most part around 1907 with the "New Covenant Schism". Theyve pretty much left Russell behind, and generally believe in the supremacy of the Father and no hellfire. Christian Discipling Ministries International does outreach worldwide via the internet.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Bible_Students
and here are the general beliefs https://web.archive.org/web/20090803103854/http://www.cmfellowship.org/docs/faq.htm
i know ray and his wife have passed but i wanted to take a few minutes and put my thanks in writing.
it is pretty incredible to me that someone who i never met, played such a major role in my outlook on life and more importantly in my (at the time) young daughters lives.
from the very first pages of "crisis of conscience" it seemed as though ray was writing to me.
I am super grateful he wrote his books as well, I missed being able to meet him with my awaking by just a couple years. Sometimes I wonder what wouldve happened of he stayed inside and tried to moderate things, because it seems to me the GB definitly took a hard line bent after he left.
having learned more actual christian beliefs since awaking from the org, looking back we had such strange and unhealthy obsession with demons compared to any other denomination that i know of.
i recently remembered this article from when i was a kid.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101986604?q=talk+to+the+demons&p=par#h=23.
I also remember a story that was in a yearbook but its obscure in my memory. Supposedly demons were snapping the necks of people in a village who wanted to study and put a ladys baby in an oven??? It was something along those lines . . .
having learned more actual christian beliefs since awaking from the org, looking back we had such strange and unhealthy obsession with demons compared to any other denomination that i know of.
i recently remembered this article from when i was a kid.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101986604?q=talk+to+the+demons&p=par#h=23.
Having learned more actual Christian beliefs since awaking from the org, looking back we had such strange and unhealthy obsession with demons compared to any other denomination that I know of. I recently remembered this article from when i was a kid.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101986604?q=talk+to+the+demons&p=par#h=23
The guy says he spoke with demons and all sorts other weird things. Of course I am highly skeptical that the org would ever print anything like this now or that this even happened lol. The article mentions the writer as being Ralph Anderson and his wife is Mari, it seems like they would have been from the Oakland CA area. Its a long shot but did anyone ever know them in person or hear of them???
remember when we were jws and all loved to hear demon stories?
and then there was always that paranoid person that would shut us up "in case they're listening"?
and the resident crazy every congregation seems to have that claims to have been possessed at some point?.
Why Did the Clock Stop When Grandpa Died? https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101982770#h=23:0-23:399
enjoy that enlightening article lol
