Posts by MrRoboto

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What is you 'red line'?

by no-zombie in

today we hear a lot about red lines in political commentaries these days.

but for those of us who are pimos, what be your red line?

what would be the doctrinal change or event that would tip you over the edge into leaving for good, regardless of the repercussions?

Phizzy, lotsa progress made but unfortunately there's a giant wall (not mine) getting in the way of further progress. People see what they want to when they can't bear to see the truth (tatt) in it's entirety or to act in accord with it. I am not in a position to fade on my own - I wont go into details here but suffice it to say that if I try to fade, I will be forced out, probably within a few weeks/months and have to deal with bad blood in my own house for a long time after that. seems a moot point to resist the inevitable but my household is worth the hassle that has been & will be and so I hold on to the ultimate in human weakness - hope.

WTWizard: are they using forms these days? maybe I missed that meeting (actually I never missed a meeting in my life - hah!) I've only seen (that I remember) blank pieces of paper that get a number on it and put into the time sheet box.

is there really a pledge form now?

Also, one creative way of dealing with that is not putting a number but a few words. "Whatever Jehovah Allows Me To Give" or perhaps you could say something like "$300, Jah willing"

of course we know that "Jah" would never want anyone to support this wicked institution so you're safe there.

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Difficulty fading out

by Emily1987 in

jw
friends

this is my first post on here so i apologize that it is like an essay!.

my husband and i are currently 'fading out' of the truth.

we stopped preaching in may 2016 and limited meeting attendance in january 2017 and stopped completely in june 2017. my main reason for this was my whole life i have been doing things to please others, even getting baptized to please my mum.

MrRoboto

Dreary,

While I agree with your line of reasoning generally, you forgot the most important aspects of this "voluntary" agreement: It was made fraudulently and under duress.

Ill explain:

Fraudulently because we were manipulated into believing that this was big J's organization, that "He" was leading these people, holidays are evil etc etc when the reality is that we were simply misled.

Duress because we were convinced (by them) that we would die in the big A if we didn't do it, much like holding a gun to someone's head.

Both of these factors make the agreement unenforceable, null and void.

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Good Works by "worldly people".

by Lost in the fog in

i have friends who are called "worldly people" by jws.

these people are actively involved in feeding the homeless over christmas.

managing thrift shops so they can send financial aid overseas to poorer children.

MrRoboto

This is one aspect that really bothered me even when I was all-in. I haven't seen anything official on it in while some time. I know alot of JWs are stuck in the past and hold quite strongly to old light, it's this still taught though? If so, can anyone point me to an article from the last 10 yrs or so?

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Wife came home upset ...

by The Fall Guy in

... because she'd stepped into some newly laid concrete.. i said to her, "don't be too hard on yourself.

".

MrRoboto

Three guys are walking down the street. Two of them walk into a bar, the other one ducks.

Keep em coming, this is great!

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Romans 2:21,22 Matthew 23:3 and the hypocrsity of the November 2017 Broadcast!

by stuckinarut2 in

hypocrites!

i know we have spoken of this before, but in light of the appaling november 2017 jwdotorg broadcast, these scriptures just need to be highlighted!.

please re-read them, and tell me if they don't apply to the society !?!.

MrRoboto

I wouldn't be surprised if there were another man behind the curtain behind the governing body but who that could be (or if its even true) would be anyone's guess

I would love to found out though.

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New Resolution

by label licker in

was anyone told today that there will be a new resolution coming in two weeks about tax receipts and donations?

there will be new changes to how these are handled.

we had a phone call tonight and our friend stated that it wouldn't be mentioned until another two weeks.

MrRoboto

I'm thinking that the talk of extra accounts with the loot is a bit of topic (unless it turns out that's what this resolution is really about) but I find the idea incredulous and interesting. Shell game to hide the loot but I'm sure that a judge, if ever it was found out, could still order that money to be used to pay debts of WBTS and maybe give them a nice hefty fine for trying to hide it. So much for Romans 13 and the superior authorities, it's clear that the most superior authorities are the GB.

I suppose that giving all that loot to a few trusted men might actually be quite the temptation as using it to do whatever they want would not be stealing (?) since its under their control. Someone might get in trouble, sure, but not to the same degree as theft, especially with those big numbers involved. Maybe a nice new CO car or residence, elders need to dress well so some new suits would be in order. Hey maybe every publisher could get in it, depending on how much we're talking about... A little bit of Robbin Hood perhaps?

Would make for an interesting blip in the news anyways.

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communicating with DF and inactive

by road to nowhere in

the last study covered it pretty well.

can i still tell my brother (not in) to tell his daughter to tell mine?

or how about smoke signals?.

MrRoboto

Road, I like your reasoning and though I have no DF/DA family,I would definitely borrow your line of reasoning if I did.

Really though,I would probably just get the boot if someone I cared about got the boot cuz there's no way I'm enforcing their laws.

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the life saving message

by jookbeard in

the life saving message of death and gloom brought to a town centre near to you!.

MrRoboto

I'm pretty sure I'm The least exemplary but since I don't go out (I count my time in other ways, mainly by looking at my last report and fudging it just a hair and submitting for current month)

But if I was out,I would be doing the door to door deal as I watch all the others go their own ways and avoid real field service like the plague...

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What is you 'red line'?

by no-zombie in

today we hear a lot about red lines in political commentaries these days.

but for those of us who are pimos, what be your red line?

what would be the doctrinal change or event that would tip you over the edge into leaving for good, regardless of the repercussions?

MrRoboto

Other than to laugh to myself, I don't really keep track of doctrine anymore. Yes, I'm pimo but for me now its just a matter of time & family matters, not doctrine.

Having said that though, if doctrinal change would be a red line for certain others, I could probably go straight to pomo. I don't support the bORG more than minimal and the elders don't seem to care enough to hassle me about it. Works for me for now but really just biding my time, may have to just cut loose if things don't go fast enough but would prefer a fade for familial reasons.

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If Trump is Impeached...the alternative is Pence ...

by tor1500 in

jw
friends

it's me again...with the question, if trump is impeached, the alternative is pence....well, it's not really a question but your thoughts...... who is he ?

& where did they find him ?

thoughts..... tor.

MrRoboto

meanmrmustard - what I meant was not that the courts would remove him, but that they could give the office to whomever they wish after the removal is done (by the senate, as noted) this situation would be unprecedented and only the courts would settle a perceived or claimed fraudulent election. In case you missed the memo, the constitution has been dead for many years. Case in point - think about all the situations the police or feds can search you, your belongings, or seize the same... WITHOUT a warrant - then go back and read the constitution and see what probable cause was necessary to do.

I'm not saying anything did or didn't happen to validate the removal of Trump but I think by now it should be clear to most that real reasons don't need to exist for the will of the powerful to be impressed upon the less powerful.

People are exonerated all the time when evidence is overwhelming.

People are convicted all the time when evidence is lacking.

Those wielding the heavy hammer of JustUs do not need actual criminals to convict, they can simply point at a person and haul them off. And yes, I'm talking about the USA, where Trump is.

I'm simply relaying to you a possibility that may happen and that actual wrong-doing is not necessary to prove to get it done.