Posts by MrRoboto

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Isiah 65:17 (Memory wipe?)

by pleaseresearch in

“for behold, i create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.. i need some help with this please guys and gals.

what is this implying?

god will wipe those past memories, the past system of things from our minds?

MrRoboto

what this is spoken here in this verse is being spoken by god. This is evident in context.

verses 16 and 17 go together well and say nearly the same thing, giving you a little perspective on who exactly is doing the forgetting here: the same one creating is the same one from whose eyes the former things are hidden.

Keep in mind though that heavens and earth don't always mean the literal form nor the forms that JWs teach.

Of course this is all a moot point if you don't consider the bible as having a divine origin.

(from the KJV)

16: That he who blesseth

himself in the earth shall

bless himself in the God of

truth; and he that sweareth

in the earth shall swear by

the God of truth; because

the former troubles are

forgotten, and because they

are hid from mine eyes.

17:

For, behold, I create

new heavens and a new

earth: and the former shall

not be remembered, nor

come into mind.

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Is The Delusional Governing Body Geting More Delusional?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

as these last days linger on and the end never comes, and more and more people leave the grips of the watchtower indoctrination machine, and it's financial situation gets worse and worse, i think we should expect the gb decision maker to become more and more delusional from the stresses of running a rapidly failing business.. https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/delusional-disorder.

delusional disorder is a rare condition and difficult to study; as a result, it is not widely discussed in clinical research.

while the cause is unknown, some studies suggest that people develop delusions as a way to manage extreme stress or deal with a history of trauma.

MrRoboto

There's a few assumptions in the question of the OP.

One is that they are deluded. In my opinion, they are not (at least not all of them)

The geebee is certainly not swindling, lying, controlling on accident due to some mistaken belief. I suspect some or all of them don't even believe in the bible/god/Jesus. I have no problem with that lack of belief generally but in top leadership of a religion, it should be a prerequisite.

In a cult, belief/fear of a deity could cause you to not want to purposely be an a$$hat to millions worldwide and would not be conducive to top leadership.

9

New Resolution

by label licker in

was anyone told today that there will be a new resolution coming in two weeks about tax receipts and donations?

there will be new changes to how these are handled.

we had a phone call tonight and our friend stated that it wouldn't be mentioned until another two weeks.

MrRoboto

If its as skin said, not having enough to cover the tithe to the mother ship, the elders are supposed to review the amount that the hall has agreed upon and make adjustments if necessary. I doubt that ever happens but maybe they will combine your cong. at another hall instead and sell yours to make your people current on dues.

I'm just waiting for when that happens at the hall I'm pimo at. A most beautiful moment it will be.

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Is the name Jehovah`s Witnesses a misnomer ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.

also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.

when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?

MrRoboto

Confused said

How do you base a whole multi million member organisation (that control peoples lives, to the point of having them die or breaking up families) if you don't even know the real name of your God?

Well, duh, because how can you be friends with someone without knowing and using their name? That's why JWs use the name. You should go to the local Kingdom Hall, maybe you would learn something!

Ok I was just kidding there, but more seriously... I don't remember the exact publication but I think it was an older (1950s maybe) OD book where they admitted that they prefer the form Yahweh but used the Jehovah form because it was so widely recognized.

I think that's a holdover from using the King James bible where the J form was used in PS 83:18

What's in a name anyway? A rose by any other name will still make you bleed; a god by any other name will still destroy you at the big A.. or was that the big Trib... Who can keep all that stuff straight anymore?

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Is the name Jehovah`s Witnesses a misnomer ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.

also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.

when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?

MrRoboto

As Nelson says: "haw haw!"

Yeah I guess real bible following people should be Jesus' witnesses since that's what he said they would be, or is the JW moniker some hidden admission that certain verses make little j out to be the same One as big J?

In any case, I'm sure is not rare for folks here and the rest of the planet at large to notice how bad the JWs stink at doing their so-called god given work.

If I were big J, I'd be pissed, and they'd be fired!

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The ever-broadening, ever-deepening, ONGOING FLOOD TIDE of spiritual food

by credulity in

midway through the "congregation bible study" at this week's midweek meeting, a paragraph of the "god's kingdom rules" book stated as supposed evidence that "god's kingdom rules":.

"spiritual provisions flow to us like an ever-broadening and ever-deepening river.

our bible-based publications - as well as recordings and videos, our meetings and conventions, and the material published on our web site - together amount to an ongoing flood tide of spiritual sustenance... are you not thrilled to see the fulfillment of jehovah’s promises of abundance in your daily life?".

MrRoboto

Funny how there are so much for and so many words provided by Jehovah and yet the bORG admits that not a single one is inspired.

Now explain how that's not duplicitous.

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CLAM MEETING Dumbing down

by freddo in

jw
friends

so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).

"it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.

".

MrRoboto

Oh, so business as usual then?

Seriously though, those videos creep me out!

33

the life saving message

by jookbeard in

the life saving message of death and gloom brought to a town centre near to you!.

MrRoboto

JWsd don't like the W part at all. Maybe that explains why they most often refer to themselves as Jehovah's people or Jehovah's organization.

If I were Jehovah, I'd be very upset at this cult of slackers that claim to be my witnesses. I might even send a prophet to get them on the right path. Perhaps that's the greatest proof of all that they are not God's people, "he" has never once corrected them on their nonsense.

Truely a non-prophet organization then.

10

Watchtower and Canada Revenue Agency

by lastmanstanding in

changes coming to canada watchtower where congregations are involved.. i strongly suspect it has to do with the lawsuits and watchtower hiding the loot.. letters coming... wheres wifi bandit??

?.

MrRoboto

Any other details you can give lastman?

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Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

by Gokumonkey in

hey everyone.

i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

MrRoboto

I think Google can help you with articles and videos but it can't help you with reasoning.

Unfortunately, almost any objection could be met with an answer of 'but it was a miracle'

Also, some believe that the water is still here in the form of oceans and that the really big mountains and the depths of the oceans are a result of the immense stress created by the massive amounts of water on the ground.

You don't really need facts when you have your blinders on and this is one area where anything can be refuted on whatever grounds you wish - for or against a global flood.

Just my 2 cents