what @simon said.
Hadriel
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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline
by Hadriel init is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.
if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.
i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline
by Hadriel init is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.
if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.
i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.
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Hadriel
It is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. If not for foreign language I doubt there would be much growth at all.
Digital trends and analytics are very real. Don't think they don't mean something. I live this analytics world I assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.
Add to the fact that Christianity isn't even enjoying the fastest growth among religions. Islam will soon overtake Christianity as a whole. Meaning JW growth really isn't in the equation.
So much for expansion and growth as makers of the true religion and God's support.
Report from the Mirror
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islam-fastest-growing-religion-overtake-6986333
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NWT...how accurate?
by Theburstbubble ini'm sorry if i'm covering old ground here.
but is the nwt bible a credible translation of the scriptures?
i'm not asking if you believe in the bible or not.
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Hadriel
In my waking experience this is something I've delved into quite heavily. That being the original texts from various Codexes and so on.
Certainly no scholar with years and years of study but after roughly 2 years of learning Koine Greek and substantial study I can say unequivocally that the NWT, grossly misrepresents the scriptures when the original text curiously doesn't fit the desired doctrine.
Take 2 Corinthians 5:20. In this text the phrase "substituting for Christ" is added with regards to ambassadors. There is zero basis for this however it is postured in such a way as if to further bolster authority. Or at least that's how I see it. To me that's simply incorrigible.
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JW.org vs. Cross: Honestly What's The Difference?
by Hadriel ini have a family member that goes nuts with these little things.
i wouldn't be surprised if they have a drawer full of underwear stamped with the logo.. it is completely out of hand.
now i'm not nitpicking here but what is the difference between printing a cross/wearing a cross than wearing a jw.org pin, tie-tack or whatever other logo'd item?
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I do some branding stuff, yeah that logo is about as bad as it gets. Zero artistic value, standard fonts used etc. -
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Proof the GB changes scriptures in the Bible...really interesting
by MrsR-Awaken inhello everyone, this info below me is not mine it's from a user in reddit that posted it.
his user name is question_and_answer1 i was hoping he was in this forum too but i don't know if he is.
anyway the credit goes to him for researching this and it's really interesting what he found and i want everyone here to read, and it's proof of how fake the watchtower is and how disgusting the gb really is...it's sickening.
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@Vidiot I know it was my poor attempt at satire. -
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Proof the GB changes scriptures in the Bible...really interesting
by MrsR-Awaken inhello everyone, this info below me is not mine it's from a user in reddit that posted it.
his user name is question_and_answer1 i was hoping he was in this forum too but i don't know if he is.
anyway the credit goes to him for researching this and it's really interesting what he found and i want everyone here to read, and it's proof of how fake the watchtower is and how disgusting the gb really is...it's sickening.
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@Vidiot umm I think we already have that....lol -
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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@CodedLogic that was rather profound my friend. -
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Proof the GB changes scriptures in the Bible...really interesting
by MrsR-Awaken inhello everyone, this info below me is not mine it's from a user in reddit that posted it.
his user name is question_and_answer1 i was hoping he was in this forum too but i don't know if he is.
anyway the credit goes to him for researching this and it's really interesting what he found and i want everyone here to read, and it's proof of how fake the watchtower is and how disgusting the gb really is...it's sickening.
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Hadriel
Here's a quick write up on 10:10 I did. This is not my perception it is just what the bible says. I don't see how a reasonable person would see it much differently. There is a real problem with 10:10 when you consider 1 John 9.
Romans 10:10 Translation of homologeitai
In Romans 10:10 this Koine Greek word homologeitai is almost exclusively translated as “confess” or more specifically “in confess” as if to say you should do so. However in the New World Translation this is changed to “public declaration”. At the time the religious leaders were denying Jesus. Hence these scriptures were pertaining to the point that yes “this is the Messiah”. Confessing that it was in fact the son of man. This is in contrast to the NWT Translation in that it seems to infer that the Jews of the time need to be concerned more about telling others about Jesus before they, unlike the Pharisees of the time, actually accepted him as Christ. Essentially preaching before they accepted Christ themselves.
This is not to say that preaching isn’t important but rather that in this particular text the application or change in meaning doesn’t seem consistent.
For reference this is vs. 9:
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9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
NWT:
9 For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,+
and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
Now vs 10.
ESV:
10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
NWT:
10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
In Verse 10 again homologeitai is properly translated as “in confess” yet the NWT translates it as “public declaration”.
NWT Translates as “confess” in other versus:
Consider 1 John 9, again the same root word homologōmen here.
ESV:
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
NWT:
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous so as to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.+
Why doesn’t verse 9 of 1 John read “In we publicly declare our sins” from door to door?
Sound council was given in Revelation 22:18,19. I think this is a good indication of why this should be strictly heeded. Without it you have a leaking pipe in which each hole you plug results in another sprouting up.
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JW.org vs. Cross: Honestly What's The Difference?
by Hadriel ini have a family member that goes nuts with these little things.
i wouldn't be surprised if they have a drawer full of underwear stamped with the logo.. it is completely out of hand.
now i'm not nitpicking here but what is the difference between printing a cross/wearing a cross than wearing a jw.org pin, tie-tack or whatever other logo'd item?
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JW.org vs. Cross: Honestly What's The Difference?
by Hadriel ini have a family member that goes nuts with these little things.
i wouldn't be surprised if they have a drawer full of underwear stamped with the logo.. it is completely out of hand.
now i'm not nitpicking here but what is the difference between printing a cross/wearing a cross than wearing a jw.org pin, tie-tack or whatever other logo'd item?
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Hadriel
I have a family member that goes nuts with these little things. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a drawer full of underwear stamped with the logo.
It is completely out of hand. Now I'm not nitpicking here but what is the difference between printing a cross/wearing a cross than wearing a jw.org pin, tie-tack or whatever other logo'd item?
Do people not look at both with some sort of authority and reverence? I'd say yes. How is this any less than the idolatry that Witnesses accuse so called Christendom of?
