I get it but at the same time not cool with the jokes...
There's a time and place...this ain't it.
Hadriel
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death at the 'memorial'
by eyeuse2badub ini just got the news from our former congregation in hollister, ca regarding a tragic event following the 'memorial' wednesday night.
we shared the kh with 2 spanish congos.. a couple from the spanish congregation were leaving the kh so that the next spanish congo could have their 'memorial'.
they exited the parking lot in their car when hit by an oncoming car right in front of the kh.
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After Being Out for 17 Years He is Back In again!!!
by new boy ini called a guy i haven talked with for over two years yesterday.
i met him at bethel back in the 1970's.
david b was known as the g job king back then.
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Hadriel
They return for the social support system not because it's true. Let's face it you have a whole social structure handed to you in the org. That's the good part. The bad is that you may die because you're part of it and some doctrine or rule eventually affects you or your family. -
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Why did I take the red pill?
by stephanie61092 inignorance really is bliss and reality is harsh.
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just having a bad, emotional day i suppose.
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Hadriel
@Steph I feel the same way at times. Almost better to not know from the perspective of dealing with family and friends that have not come out from under the influence and mind control. It really does suck at times.
Think is that if you know the truth then you control your own path whereas not knowing you are completely controlled. So at times it may be frustrating just remember you are in control no one else.
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Question On Links To Other Sites.
by MicaSmith indear forum members:.
i have read through the rules on what can be posted and what is disallowed.
i believe that i have not posted anything that disrespects those standards.
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Hadriel
@MicaSmith I can't speak for Si but pm me the links and maybe there's something there I can point out for you. Simon is generally very balanced so I wouldn't take this personal. People have a tendency to take this sort of deal personal. Could be a simple thing you missed or maybe even a mistake. -
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Hadriel
It's within my legal rights that this thread be deleted or else, or else I'll be back; Under a covert ID and numerous other IDs that will get very personal with the moderators of this forum.
You apparently never got beyond the first two paragraphs of the terms (see below). With your statement you're already indicating intent to break the terms. And just for the record if requested I will use my IT expertise/talents to track your butt down if you do anything malicious or outside the terms. You had your fun move along. You're likely a JW it would be a real bummer for you to get exposed I would imagine.
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Pshycos! - 2016 "Remain Loyal to Jehovah" Regional Convention Program
by thedepressedsoul inwow this is interesting!
i think how much emphasis this puts on "loyalty" shows their is an issue.
they're trying to plug the wholes as much and quickly as possible.
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Hadriel
You've been studying Koine? What you're disputing is in the Hebrew scriptures, Koine is Greek!
So you're saying the old testament wasn't written in Greek in the Codex Vaticanus? You might want to inform the Vatican that the treasure they've been storing for centuries is missing a few pages...
Plus of course many many more translated manuscripts into Greek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint_manuscripts
..and just for completeness here's the hebrew with pronunciation and definition.
http://discovertheword.org/2010/10/18/the-hebrew-term-hesed-and-what-it-means-for-our-lives-today/
...anything else @Robo????
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Hadriel
@Dystopia your cavalier manner regarding failed reportings of child abuse when it is required by law is well sickening. How would you feel if your child was raped yet you were told NOT to report it to the police or you might be disfellowshipped? Guess what that's happened to thousands. Or are the millions upon millions of dollars paid out because everyone is lying?
Why did the BOE audit letter in November specifically ask Elders to destroy notes i.e. EVIDENCE regarding child rape cases? Could that be because the Watchtower is preparing for many many more lawsuits and is attempting to cover their butts? I'll give you two guesses and the first two don't count.
...no there is not hate for Jehovah's Witnesses there's hate for the dangerous policies that break bible laws and affect people's lives irrevocably. The problem is that we have been influenced to always defend the organization rather than people.
For those of us that have endured abuse, had a child abused or dealt with abuse and have a heavy conscience and so on the cavalier manner in which you speak is simply unacceptable.
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Defining What is the Truth about the Truth of the Jehovah's Witnesses Religion
by Finkelstein inin an endeavor to clearly define the truth about the truth of the jw religion, whats your personal perception of what you understand of how this religion came to be, in its inherit beginning and how it was able to sustain itself over the years ?
from my own perspective i think the strategic actions by its founding leaders to draw attention to their own published works such as the singular endeavors starting from c t russell and onward.
the self proposing recognition by people such as j rutherford, that god had specifically (1919) chosen " his " organization exclusively, is really where and when this assuming man made power began and continued to flourish.. but the real significant thing that created attention to the public's eyes and imagination was when both russell and rutherford proclaimed that christ had returned and he had started to divide and choose who was going to be saved from destruction and live on in a earthly paradise and who was to be killed at the soon to come day of judgement.
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Hadriel
Doctrine is only good for those that served in some capacity as an Elder, MS, C.O., D.O. pioneer etc. You have to have a deep understanding of the doctrine to start with before you can unwind it as false.
More often than not a personal experience or experience they are aware of where someone was treated unjustly or shown no love has greater effect than doctrine.
The ARC and the UK charity commissions among others that are sure to pop up are likely to have quite the effect over time.
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My jw friend keeps preaching to me in e-mails
by Queenme indear friends this is my first time posting.
i am not a jw and have never been one but i have a friend who married a jw and converted.
in spite of the bunk barometer going off in my brain over the years and never responding to her efforts to convert me, she just cannot stop preaching.
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Hadriel
@Finkelstein although I totally agree with you unfortunately dealing with JW's is a one way conversation. They're allowed to preach to you but you not them.
So if you want to maintain the relationship the best way I've found is to at a minimum take them down a notch with some facts that can't be disputed. At least then they can justify why you feel as you do in their own minds. If you're really fortunately they'll be shaken to reality but don't hold your breath.
