Posts by Hadriel

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Hadriel

Although I concur with @Heaven as to the order of creation I just as vehemently believe it is as much out of sorts to think a single cell organism (Universal Ancestor) is our beginning by happenstance.

That said there are many perplexing things in both. As far as the bible the flood alone is a field day for any evolutionist. If you think rationally there's serious concerns in this story. How were animals that are strictly indigenous to an area able to make it to the ark and then back. Just doesn't make sense. How in a short period of time was it possible for all these kingdoms of earth and the building of the tower of babel to have existed after only 8 people left the ark?

We could go on and on. As to the other side of the coin, the complexity in life is quite significant. If evolution is true, if this happenstance is accurate why can't we solve the complexity of life and disease?

If we can calculate the proteins involved in DNA and much more why is it not possible to cure disease and for that matter create life itself?

If you're honest there are questions on all sides that are terribly difficult to answer.

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Office Jargon, drives me nuts

by punkofnice in

'granular' seems to be the latest buzz word going around my office.

previously it was 'appetite'.. abstract words that appear to be designed to make the person saying it appear powerful and part of the 'team'.. as lord sugar has observed before; why not just speak english and say what you mean.. office jargon really annoys me.

i had enough loaded language and jargon in the disgusting jw cult..

Hadriel

Just so you guys know these terms are all generated from the tech world. You guys are just now hearing about them is all. Been in the game for a while actually.

Ping - email me when you're back.

Granular - Used when describing a class, query etc gives greater control over something.

Leverage - Utilizing one tool to extend another. (hate this one with a passion)

Monetize - How to take an application and now start making money with it.

Prosumer - The consumer that's more or elite than the next guy.

Push - Dual meaning. Could be uploading changes of your work or to move an appointment to another time.

Convergence - Converging things together to make a viable product or service.

Hard Stop - Have to break off our meeting at this time no exceptions.

Scalable - This product will scale nicely at any size from startup to public offering.

Future Proof - Something that will still be viable and good in the future.

Touch Points - Times where you've discussed the project.

Touches - Usually used to suggest we haven't had enough touch points or conversation.

...there are plenty more but just a few to further make your nervous tick go haywire.

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New Field Service Report

by cognac in

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has anyone seen this?

when did that happen?.

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

Hadriel

It won't be long and the only magazines will be digital. They'll always print books although even that is a waste of money for non third world countries. Imagine the bulk of the printing will be for those third world countries moving forward.

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How do I handle this situation?

by BarelyThere in

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hey everyone.

i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.

there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.

Hadriel

@BarelyThere you should absolutely report it. It is your account. You could approach it that it is difficult to return to Jah with this sort of harmful gossip and slander and that you would appreciate him creating a new account or changing the email address. (you can only do this once or twice on FB so if you have done it before he may have to get a new account). Stress that it is really hurtful and makes it difficult to build your faith when leaders in the congregation are engaging in such things.

I would suggest you quit looking at it regardless. Like in Pitch Perfect it's like the piece of burrito on "fat Amy''s" neck it will only fuel your hate fire...lol (gotta make light of it)

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Brooklyn news on sending the elderly packing

by I am a Bible Student in

johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.

they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .

Hadriel

Hard to believe I get the skepticism. Some of the things this guy says and how quickly he responds to certain questions seem credible.

Basing this on some studies I did years and years ago.

Regardless this will all come out as credible or not as time will tell in a few weeks if the rumors become concrete as some of these ones actually leave.

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My life After Bethel Part 1

by new boy in

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the day i left it was pouring rain........i really screwed up, i found out the night before, as i was packing things up, that i had way under estimated how much stuff i had.

i had two large suit cases (that i could barely shut the lids on) and a large army duffel bag.

i would guess about 200 pounds of shit......my van was in rhode island with the engine out of it.

Hadriel

...agrees with @vivalavida your writing is easy to follow and flows nicely @NewBoy keep em' coming.

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My Bthel Experince Part 19 The Last Chapter..(really) Bethel Overseers

by new boy in

there were other people who either killed themselves or tried to kill themselves while they were at "the house of god.

one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.

it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died.

Hadriel

This story is like rinse and repeat. Most if not all feel this way when leaving.

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I can't let go of this obsession...

by juandefiero in

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i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.

but i can't.

i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!

Hadriel

Two things I know at this point in my fade. Pretty much everyone goes through the same feelings. Secondly no one should have to deal with this conflict within self and their family. Just shouldn't be.

The way I've been expressing things to my family is here are x number of things, they have shaken me, I'm conflicted. I wish someone could prove them wrong.

Some will be compelled to set out and prove those concerns you mention wrong. They won't be able to.

The result is quite incredible to see.

I find no joy in it other than knowing that I've gained them and that I might have saved them from refusing blood or adhering to some other thing that could cause loss of life etc.

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"Crises of Conscience"

by Olivia Wilde in

i just finished reading chapters 11-12 of raymond franz, crises of conscience & i must admit, i am pretty strong person, however the way ed dunlap & ray franz were treated left me crying, i had tears rolling done my eyes driving home from work on friday... & how ed was kicked out by wt, left me feel soo disgusted & outraged.... it was very obvious he needed to stay at bethel because of his age & medical conditions but i admired he didn't compromise his conscious, it's sickening to me how cold & callous these men can treat a christian after all his service.... & of course ray franz situation was no exception either, the witch hunt they did to get him out was, well, there's just isnt enough adjectives to describe their disgusting motives against him... he was 59 yrs old trying to make a honest living with his wife & for them to go after him was devious & demon like.... i'm soo grateful i came across this book & i wished i had much much sooner.... i know god will reward both ed dunlap & franz plus many many more who have been unjustly & unchristian like treated during that time & this time, sooo sickening.....i still feel very much upset & emotional over the whole thing .... i never met any of them & then yet i feel deep christian love for them......

Hadriel

For those curious Crisis of Conscience will be back in circulation at nominal prices.

I noticed that the pricing is quite high and is usually but various private sellers or those with a few left.

Like I said though this will be back in full circulation very soon.

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WT Study 1/10/16 Encouraging Child Baptism And More Nonsense

by JW_Rogue in

i've noticed that each wt lesson really only has one or two points they want remembered.

normally they build up to these by about the third subheading.

this week's lesson though was different, the main point was insidiously made through an experience in the first paragraph:.

Hadriel

@freemindfade is freaking dead on. Do you think the baptism questions are to see if you know the teachings of the organization? Yes some are but pay attention to the more than half of those which are targeted at consequences. They are formulated in a way where you're answering in the affirmative that you realize there are repercussions.

The second question at the day of the baptism the contract is inked.

Make no mistake this process is so that you can be held accountable. It's as plain as day. There's no conspiracy here that is exactly what it was designed for.