Posts by Hadriel

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What is it going to take for her to wake up? 2016 convention was the biggest display of B.I.T.E

by goingthruthemotions in

so i went to the convention this past weekend.

not, because i wanted to....but, because i had no choice.. i took myself and our son's out walking every chance i had, i made it so we missed the bunker video, the drama, the stupid dream squashing video with the violin.. but, while in there sitting.

one of the speakers said this:.

Hadriel

Hand her a bible ask her to take you to the place where Jesus explained overlapping generations or makes any reference to the fact that a generation was longer than a generation of the time which is clearly outlined at the beginning of Matthew. Give you a hint its about 48 years.
Ask her to open up Acts 15. The go to chapter to support the governing body. Ask if this was the first century gb then why were the Pharisees speaking. Why did they have a voice.
In that same chapter ask how it is that the governing body operated there while Paul who was in Antioch at the time of this chapter hadn't been to Jerusalem in years. James too had to travel there.
In that same chapter, Acts 15 again ask how it is that the murmurers that were clamoring for Gentiles to get circumcised came from the land of Judea where Jerusalem (where the gb supposedly operated) was centered. Could it be the apostles who certainly wouldn't have been summoned by the gb but rather would have led it could have been going to Jerusalem/Judea to correct the problem? If yes then there is no such thing as a governing body.
If Matthew 24:36 indicates that no one knows the day or the hour, not even the son, then how is it that the organization said that Jehovah's day would culminate in 1914 - The time is at Hand p. 101 (1907). Why would Jehovah direct his channel to lie to his sheep?

There are just so many things. You don't need an apostate site or what they might see as that. You need only common sense and the society's publications. The following video talks about some of these things...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BZbKffcsbc

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Political Correctness

by snugglebunny in

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friends

i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.

ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.

the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.

Hadriel

If PC mean "Polite and Compassionate" we'd all be better off. What I mean is this. If you are simply polite and compassionate to another's situation good things usually happen.

Being PC can go too far and ultimately be controlling. Why do we have to agree? Why can't we just appreciate the other perspective and be generally polite about it. However it shouldn't mean that I must change my opinion.

For those that feel they can just say what they want whenever they want that usually works out for them until their on the other end of the offensive comment.

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How many members of Governing Body have college(or higher) degrees?

by intropist in

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i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?

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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .

Hadriel

Based on the faulty content they produce...NONE!!

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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"

by Sanchy in

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video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".

warning: your head might explode.

especially past the 5:30 mark.

Hadriel

@punkofnice -Perfect clip!!

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What the Org Teaches #6 The "Governing Body" Resolved the Circumcision Issue

by The Searcher in

#6 the "governing body" resolved the circumcision issue .

what the org says: bt chap.

13 p. 103 par.

Hadriel

This one is so clear to me that I honestly don't know why more don't wake from it. why???

1. The ones that were murmuring came down to Antioch and came from where? Judea. Where is Jerusalem? Yep in the center of Judea.

2. The Pharisees actually spoke at this council. How could it be a governing body if they were speaking opinion.

3. Paul hadn't been back to Jerusalem in many years. If the governing body was there why had he not gone back to settle other matters that surely would have come up?

4. James also had to travel to Jerusalem to meet up with Paul etc.

Everything in Acts 15 points to the fact that there was not a governing body but rather they traveled to where the problem was coming from and mind you the obvious location for meeting. That's it!!! Nothing else to it. Fred Franz talk speaks to all of this almost verbatim. When I first heard it my mouth dropped as it was what I had thought myself almost to the letter.

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Morning Woship: Kenneth Flodin targets "apostates"

by Sanchy in

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friends

video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".

warning: your head might explode.

especially past the 5:30 mark.

Hadriel

Video Rebuttal on this talk available:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BZbKffcsbc&feature=youtu.be

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Strange behaviour after cut and paste

by konceptual99 in

hi simon,.

i've just created a topic re a cart witnessing experience.

i wrote the original text in another bit of software (evernote) and cut and paste it in when creating the topic.. it did not leave any line space between paragraphs (just <br> tags it would appear) but when i added in some paragraph breaks it all looks ok when the edit is saved but then on refresh text is being completely lost.. i don't have this problem other times so am wondering if it's something to do with the c'n'p into the rich text editor and then subsequent edits.. any ideas?.

Hadriel

Have to see the markup that's created from Evernote but I would suggest before post you click the last button in the tool bar and check the code that is being generated. My guess is that it doesn't like perhaps a broken tag or unauthorized tag in the content and then on post it can't be encoded safely so it bombs the entire content. That's typically what causes the scenario you're describing.

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Start your own Prince rumour!

by purrpurr in

i see the jw rumour mill is going into mad overdrive about prince.

the stories seem to be more and more unlikely.

so i thought as a bit of fun how about us here try to make up our own rumours?

Hadriel

LOL priceless.

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San Diego abuse case: stay tuned. Zalkin's motion to be considered this Friday.

by Sugar Shane in

zalkin proposing huge sanctions if jw leadership fails to produce documents.

unredacted this time!

feds need to get involved with this.

Hadriel

Sadly unless they are threatened with imprisonment I don't see how anything changes here other than they pay fines and lose a judgment.

Even then I would imagine those that would be imprisoned would NOT be the governing body members but those who are officers of the corporations.

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If Prince had an addiction to prescriptions drugs, it's a personal matter but if I want to grow a beard or attend college, it's not.

by ToesUp in

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interesting article i found about prince and the jw religion.

i guess they are trying to get their 15 minutes of fame.

i find it disturbing that the elder stated if prince had an addiction to prescription drugs, that is a personal matter but the hundreds of intrusive jw rules like going to college (not scriptural) and growing a beard (also not scriptural) are not also considered a personal choice.

Hadriel

They make him sound like regular joe publisher. I just don't see that at all.