all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.
we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.
but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.
@Frankenstein it is also categorically dishonest to not answer a direct question because you don't want to feel the words cross your lips.
Which is exactly what happens when you ask poignant questions which science has yet to solve and yet the non-theist types simply won't state the obvious.
Until the origin of life question is solved NO ONE should be puffing out their peacock chest.
Without the origin of life there is no evolution, I'm not typing this....in short there is nothing.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.
@Vidiot I would love to see their complacent attitude after it happens to them or their child.
Waiting on Jah is all fine and well until it effects you personally. Witnesses in general take this attitude.
Think about death in the world. A sister literally told my wife that with all the bombings and terrorism in France that she was secretly happy because it meant the end was so very close.
That's the mentality you're dealing with.
all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.
we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.
but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.
Well when you have the moderator/owner of this site telling people to "fuck off" that doesn't really exactly deescalate things much.
This encourages the non-theist types to run wild allowing them to belittle, degrade and borderline bully people into accepting a specific point of view.
I would call that troll/pot stirring at its best.
Being in the middle (not certain of what to believe as we can't define the origin of life yet) it is clear to me that both sides need to chill out. Both could be wrong on some level or another.
and since it's apparently cool to f-bomb whole groups of people here...
For the non-theists here that demand you assimilate because you said so....yeah you can "fuck off".
i just joined this sight today.
i'm hoping to find people here with similar experiences or have experience with similar situations or just any advise or feedback.. first.
my quick life story.. i was born into jw.
@berrygerry gave you good advice hit up http://www.jwfacts.com if you haven't already.
Tell your dad you've been thinking about returning to Jehovah. You just have a few questions and if he would be so kind as to answer them you'd be willing to study.
He will be so excited by you stating that he'll for sure try to answer your questions.
Here are some ideas for questions.
1. Were those that were disfellowshipped for taking blood fractions prior to the governing body allowing blood fractions automatically reinstated once the governing body changed their minds? and how did they go about apologizing to those that were disfellowshipped after causing them so much unnecessary pain?
2. In 1919 when Jesus chose the organization we taught that he should be worshiped. How can that be? Either they were teaching darkness then and he wouldn't have chosen them or we're teaching darkness now because we're not following the teaching we taught when he chose us? "In Jehovah there is no darkness at all"
3. In the book the "Time is At Hand" we stated on page 101 that Jesus took reign in 1878 and that Armageddon was in 1914. Then we said 1925. These were specific years/dates. Doesn't that directly contradict Matthew 24:36? And again why would Jesus chose us if we were teaching such things?
4. If there was a governing body in Jerusalem why were the Pharisees part of that body given the condemnation Jesus game them? See Acts 15:5
5. If I'm out in service how do I explain to the householder the concept of overlapping generations directly from the bible considering that the bible indicates in Matthew 1 that a generation is roughly 48 years?
and there are many many more tough questions like this that will scramble his brain if that is what you're looking to do. What I mean is make him think.
This is not chicanery or twisting words these are things flat out said by the organization over the years. If he wants you to "return" he should explain the above type questions which he won't be able to because it's all a farce.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
@OrphanCrow you can pick one of the hundreds that do. It isn't like there are two that believe in creation. There are many.
It should be stated tho that this is a small amount relative to the hundreds of thousands that don't.
look, now before i speak, i want to say that it is very okay for someone to not believe.
are they hurting anyone?
killing anyone?
@freemindfade is right with his point. To deny it is would be terribly naive.
Nobody hates you for being superstitious. Stop being so paranoid.
@cofty always gotta get a shot in..."being superstitious" Simply saying "nobody hates you" would suffice.
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
I read @cofty pretty well let me translate this statement:
Yes there is a very long journey to the first cell but every step is being investigated.
Yes we don't know how the first cell formed but don't worry about that Evolution is FACT.
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
The amount of deflection by the hardline evolutionists folks is astounding. Pose a tough question or one you really can't solve at least not yet and what do you get?
"you're asking the wrong question", "you don't understand the question", "you're not being clear", "you're talking in circles and not making sense"
I could go on and on.
It's o.k. we get it you don't have the answer to these perplexing questions anymore than scientists who have dedicated their lives to these very things.
Just say I DON'T KNOW!
as i said last night the smell of pus from an infection is recognized by all puppies without their being exposed to the smell previously, this is shown because all puppies react the same way to this smell, which is to lick the infected pus laden wound.. this demonstrates that smells are carried on dna in some way.
any thoughts on how?.
I've asked a 100 times for Cofty Viviane and other to explain the biochemical charge and all I get are crickets.
They simply can't bring themselves to say "I don't know" or "I can't explain it".
It is the Holy Grail related to Evolution. If they are so separate why was Darwin so interested in the Origin?
Because it matters. Admit it and move on...
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
Can we get @Crabby on the ballot? Just sayin....
