Wild_Thing4 days ago
I have been reading about the early history of Russelites/JWs and in the beginning, it seems the organization was formed and headed by quite a few educated people.
Education has been replaced by showmanship!
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When Did Higher Education Become Taboo?
by Wild_Thing ini have been reading about the early history of russelites/jws and in the beginning, it seems the organization was formed and headed by quite a few educated people.
lawyers, doctors, businessman.
you could buy voting rights within the organization for $1000, which by today's standard would be somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000, something most of us do not have on hand, unless you are highly educated and/or wealthy.
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This is Just getting Ridiculous and out of hand with the Borg
by MrsR-Awaken insaw this on reddit it was posted by user morgan_sparlock .
to me honestly this would of been prohibited 10 years ago, but now every dub is obsessed with this website, it's everywhere even a damn iphone cover... ooh they don't approve of idolatry ooh no they don't accept cross veneration thats bullshit to me!!!
its getting to a point that they are venerating this website (company logo) it's their version of the cross.
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Skedaddle
Looks to me like they're losing members and thought oh what the f@ck, let's just brand the bejeezus out of it! Desperate times people!
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TV / Movie Clips That Summarize JW.org Life
by jw07 inthis is just meant to be a fun topic.. what are some tv and movie snippets that summarize the conformity and extremism of watchtower life in general?.
i found this trailer for the giver to be dead on :-).
it shows what happens when you start to openly question the organization and its policies.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etspwr5deek&feature=youtu.be.
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Skedaddle
Great thread! Great clip because it has all the right terminology too!!! Amazing!!!
This is what popped straight into my mind. It hasn't got the right terminology but the whole clip can be adapted and here's how I see a it;
The boy is an awoken JDUB (and is exactly how I feel, makes me tear-up). The young male panel member is an elder (always complying with being over-ridden), the female panel member is if a (asleep) sister was allowed to sit as an elder, the older male panel member is a GB member (offering an assignment at the end), the audience are the witnesses, the guy in his room is an exJdub who's still indoctrinated and the crying girl in the room is an exjdub who knows TTATT! Actually the whole movie is worth a watch, the bikes are the ministry, the high point collectors are pioneers, the foul rude guys are fence sitters, the whole environment is like Bethel. See what you think...
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Was Adam "born" Circumsized ?
by RubaDub ini guess we have to assume that jesus was circumcised on the 8th day but what about adam?
he was "perfect", so did he have the weenie cut or not?.
i would like to bring this question up at a "get-together".. rub a dub .
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Skedaddle
If you're referring to FGM it's horrendous too isn't it, more so. So many screwed up distortions of religions! These people really are sick in the head. It's not just Islam either, Christians, Jews etc. all do it. Disgusting! So controlling.
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So Proud of Pops
by brandnew inok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.
they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!
this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".
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Skedaddle
following on from my last comment... remember the bread and garlic powder... that needs spoofing with the 2 ''waiters'' eating the bread out of the bin because they're hungry with ''bethelite'' written on their t-shirts...
I think I've had too much coffee
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So Proud of Pops
by brandnew inok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.
they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!
this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".
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Skedaddle
''$1 billion dollars in sales, and local Elders have to resort to shaking down the elderly for money to pay measly monthly bills. Wow, just wow!!''
This would make amazing footage for spoof jworg tv!!!
Credits would read: ''All characters in this video clip were actors but the stories were REAL!!!'' That needs to be done!!!
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A great suggestion from a current Bethelite on the chopping block
by Gilbeath Haaraloth ina very close friend of mine has gotten his letter.
although he was planning to leave willingly, he told me that he can't help but feel a sense of being stabbed in the back by a bunch of self righteous traitors.
he gave tours for years, always telling the visitors "this is the best way of life, i would never change anything here and i'll never regret making this decision to come here.
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Skedaddle
@macys - ''If you want to join then PM him here first and he will send you his private email.'' errr, why can't he use PM on here to send the message???? Am I missing something here??? So he's collecting email addresses then???? For an anti-circumcision campaign list??? Have I got the wrong end of the stick? (pun intended!)
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Watchtower go full on propaganda!
by David Graham ini see the watchtower are getting extremely desperate now.http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/25503-injustice-abounds-for-our-dear-russian-brothers/check out the professionally edited video, using professional equipment!
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Skedaddle
@Mephis - I struggled to make sense of what I read to be honest. That could have been your fault or mine. From what I understand you were disagreeing with me and trying to make it sound like I'm cheering on laws that squash freedom of speech or freedoms of other groups to express themselves etc. which is not the case. For the record, I'm not a fan of the P. prince or his methods. Quite frankly he lets his ego take him to war like a fool but that's another conversation. If you say we're agreeing, then cool! -
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Was Adam "born" Circumsized ?
by RubaDub ini guess we have to assume that jesus was circumcised on the 8th day but what about adam?
he was "perfect", so did he have the weenie cut or not?.
i would like to bring this question up at a "get-together".. rub a dub .
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@Talesin; ''is circumcision compulsary in islam'' pop this into google and loads of sources pop up. I'm at work so don't have the time to read through and find you a good source but the first source from that google search is from BBC Islam which states;
''Circumcision is not compulsory in Islam but it is an important ritual aimed at improving cleanliness. It is strongly encouraged but not enforced. The ritual dates back to the time of the Prophet Muhammad. According to tradition Muhammad was born without a foreskin (aposthetic).Aug 13, 2009''.
I have someone next to me who is Islamic. He says all Islamic people agree with the above but there are lotsof nutters who distort it to make it compulsory as a controlling mechanism (think how cults work).
Pay attention to the word ''tradition'' in your source from wiki. It always says tradition because it is NOT in the Qu'ran.
To put into perspective, it's not a sin to not be circumcised for an Islamic person. It's a choice. It's a tradition.
Hope this helps.
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Was Adam "born" Circumsized ?
by RubaDub ini guess we have to assume that jesus was circumcised on the 8th day but what about adam?
he was "perfect", so did he have the weenie cut or not?.
i would like to bring this question up at a "get-together".. rub a dub .
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Skedaddle
@talesin "Interesting that Islam also requires the practice (another religion that demonizes sex)." In the interests of fairness, this is not true. Islam is not interested in c@cks:) In the Qu'ran it does not mention circumcision. However it is believed that Mohammed was born circumcised and a lot want to emulate him by having circumcision ops. So it is a tradition but not a command. Any requirement of circumcision by any sect of islam is a distortion of islam as it is not mentioned in the Qu'ran.