i look back over the last two years of my life with all the experiences i have read about here and other places and these are three experiences that stand out to me.
recently in another post a girl relates her experience of being in the borg and her mom literally threw her away by giving her over to the state after she accused an elder of groping her.
two; i met the man that wrote the insight books for the borg and even though he was at the time the brians of the borgs doctines when he faded his family , brother and his kids are shunning him.
Crazyguy - I see you as a hero! I totally get it.
A few questions; You say your relationship is hopeless with your wife. Are you still married? Living together? Do you think going back will give you the chance to re-kindle your relationship with your wife so as to plant seeds and get her out? And the kids, how old are they?
if someone commits financial fraud, they commit a crime, and can be punished (jailed).. but if someone commits a religious fraud, western society does not see that as a crime.. on another thread, a poster pointed out that the jws, "literally steals peoples lives and causes horrendous damage.
of course, the jws are not the only religion to practise religious fraud.
all sorts of large and small religions make unverifiable promises and ask for financial support on the basis of their promises, which is precisely what financial defrauder does.
At the end of the day, jdubs do not steal peoples lives. Individuals choose to follow a set of beliefs.
I was born-in and so are many others. My young brain was brainwashed before I knew of any other notion. Where was my choice?
Individuals choose to shun family members. Individuals choose to withhold blood related medical treatment. Very painful i know but this is where personal accountability comes in and why it is so important to either get out completely and/or actively work at helping others to get out.
JW's shun people and refuse blood after they are brainwashed. I never heard of a new JW or a non-JW say oh, shunning is a very reasonable thing to do and the no-blood policy is no biggy, tell me where to sign. BRAINWASHING and emotional manipulation happens first.
Religeous freedome is extremely important. Even more important though is the ability to question and rebel against religion.
Religious freedom is a seperate issue to what defines a credible religion. A religion, who's members are not afforded said freedom to leave, who's brainwashing techniques and hushing about certain beliefs that get drip-fed in time are used in order to attract and retain followers, is not a credible religion, it's a fraud and as such should be challenged by the government to change before being banned. You think that's harsh? My government is paying the bill for the clean-up operation for each member that is damaged by said religion that's tricked them, with tax-payer money. A religion that is brainwashing members into not working, not getting a good education, asking for excessive and expensive medical proceedures, not partaking in society, not following certain laws, not letting it's members talk to non-believers, ostracisizing ex members etc. causes a huge burden on tax-payers and a damage to society cohesion - Tax-payers which the government represents. I have no problem with people believing whatever they want to but when damage is caused by misrepresentation and emotional blackmail and brainwashing, that is a threat and needs dealing with for the very country that is supposedly free, would be sustaining an environment for a suppressive regime with no limitations if not. While you may pussy-foot around your rights, leaders are dealing with religion being used as a weapon against the peacefulness of their country. It's not always about the individual. Sometimes it's about fighting for survival of the group. So leaders should have the right to question and rebel against a damaging religion that's a burden on society. I hope I've made sense.
i have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".
the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".
this is huge.
I'd stick a letter on the reverse side of the bloodcard with my real request, nulling the document. A simple 'P.T.O. FOR IMPORTANT ALLERGIC REACTION INFO' would be stuck on the front just so they don't miss it and then voila, all is revealed on the back!
it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.
these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.
the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.
Hey, who's side are you on Island Man? Stop giving the enemy advice please!
No, according to America’s National Hot Dog and Sausage Council (NHDSC)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/america-decides-is-the-hot-dog-a-sandwich-or-not-a6726656.html
A sandwich consists of two pieces of bread with a filling. A hotdog is one piece of bread with a slit in it and filling.
You owe me 2 minutes of life!
i'm 16 and it seems like most the people on this forum are adults.
i would think since most teenagers have tablets/smartphones there would be more on here but maybe not?
it would be nice to meet some other young people.
Hey Dis3 I see you've just joined up so a big welcome. You might want to mention what username your mum has to Blackwolf. Everyone needs to stay safe on here, ok honey. Have fun
i asked him what happened.
he said "him and his wife lived a full theocratic life for jehovah.
doing everything the organization and the traveling brothers told them to do, like work part time, regular pioneer, serve where the need is great.
I'm struggling to understand how this organization has been allowed and is still allowed to exist legally. It literally steals peoples lives and causes horrendous damage. It's the weirdest charitable organization I ever came across. It preys on people with good intentions like a cancer. It literally does not give a rat's ass about anyone other than to make sure everyone is enslaved to serve the so-called purpose of a loving organization.
Where are the retirement homes huh? With all your property you'd think you could manage to build some retirement homes for the elderly who are living on rations and stay cold in their beds because they can't afford heating as they have NOTHING to live on after a life of unpaid service... it never mentions it. Like this problem doesn't exist. But don't complain just wait on Jehovah. Yeah, don't embarrass us or we'll make you feel guilty for telling us you have no food! If someone had a brain in that Watchtower they'd realize they need to start playing the long game if they want to survive. Instead they remain as a seedy little pyramid, death cult, property scheme. 8.2 million members in 140 years is a total joke! A JOKE! You don't even offer your own members a hot meal! What kind of joke are these people???? arrrgh!
My heart weeps in my burning rage.
hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.
whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.
he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.
i'm 16 and it seems like most the people on this forum are adults.
i would think since most teenagers have tablets/smartphones there would be more on here but maybe not?
it would be nice to meet some other young people.
hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.
whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.
he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.
