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26It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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Karter; Can they plead the 5th? Say nothing and own up to nothing?
They cannot plead the 5th. It's not a subpoena where they testify in court, it's a deposition. A legal process where a witness provides sworn testimony outside of court. As I posted above, it's part of the Discovery process
Discovery is a formal investigation allowing parties to find out more about the case. In a lawsuit, all named parties have the right to conduct Discovery. It will enable the parties to use facts and potential evidence to better define their strategies. In some cases, inforI don't think I care what "true believers" finally think (if they ever even hear about the cases). I hope the judgements strike WT hard and deep financially mation learned during discovery helps the opposing sides settle without having to go to trial.
DesirousOfChange; I don't think I care what "true believers" finally think (if they ever even hear about the cases). I hope the judgements strike WT hard and deep financially
That's exactly the point. Nothing will wake up True Believers. They have to want to wake up on their own.
But what's good about this is the publicity for the whole world to see the hypocrisy of the Religion. Plus it raises red flags for many people to avoid anything to do with the Watchtower.
no zombie; I believe the document stated August 28.
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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LHG .will the GB actually agree to show up? OR will they go into hiding???
They are being deposed, which is the taking of an oral statement of a witness before trial under oath. It's part of the discovery process.
Discovery is a formal investigation allowing parties to find out more about the case. In a lawsuit, all named parties have the right to conduct Discovery. It will enable the parties to use facts and potential evidence to better define their strategies. In some cases, information learned during discovery helps the opposing sides settle without having to go to trial.
But if it gets more complicated, they might be subpoena to testify. Then they have no choice legally. I think they will try to legally figure out a way to skirt the issue before it gets complicated. They have access to Billions of dollars to pay for the best lawyers money can buy.
But If that fails, I don't see them as being the James Bond "Smart" type of men to go into hiding. They're a bunch of bafoons who just happened to inherit a multi-billion corporation.
If they went into hiding, I can't help but picture them like the Chris Farley type in real life.
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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Anony Mous, we are now living in a time when anyone can put together a "Face" of someone in power, like any member of the Governing Body, and make it seem like what he says is coming from the actual GB member.
I had a PIMI elder tell me that his family don't watch the news anymore because it's all lies. He said that they get all their news from their website, jw.org, because that's how Jehovah is communicating with them.
So I agree that the true believers will not believe anything anymore coming from any other place besides their own website. It's their last stand.
It wouldn't surprise me if they finally put all the Governing body in prison, but the true believers would never believe it.
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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at best you’ll get someone saying it’s fake and those are not the real leaders of the JW
Can you tell the Difference between Real vs Fake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wVpVH0Wa6E
Now that we have AI!
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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OperationAlarming700It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/
Recent court documents show that members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses Governing Body — including former member Tony Morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in New York and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
This could be a turning point, as they may be forced to answer difficult questions about the organization. If they agree to testify, the recordings will be documented and could become publicly available. If they refuse to testify, they could be found guilty, face heavy financial penalties, and essentially confirm to the public that the organization did, in fact, cover up these cases of sexual abuse.
The sources for these legal actions against the Governing Body have been made public and are available here:
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https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=dELrWFj8CjD8CBvel1gBSA%3D%3D
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https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=9aP45xbPyfjPJ2pebhPHYw%3D%3D
If you want to find out more please check: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=8a0gVk440rov0X1twLoxgQ%3D%3D&display=all&courtType=Kings+County+Supreme+Court&resultsPageNum=2
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1975 !
by Sea Breeze inhow many of you here remember 1975?
i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.
those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.
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1 Cor.7 Do not look for a wife.....What I am saying, brothers, is that the time is short. From now on those who have wives should live as if they had none; ..... For this world in its present form is passing away.
I wonder how many young men and women followed this counsel, only to get old and finally realized that the "Time is short- this world is passing away" '''''Godly Counsel ........was all a lie, made up, Not by God, but by HUMANS?
Reminds me of the 1969 Awake posted on the internet for all to see and be warned.
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not?
Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.
Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone!
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1975 !
by Sea Breeze inhow many of you here remember 1975?
i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.
those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.
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1975 was based on the last generation that would not die. I can’t help but imagine that the early Christian followers also got duped, out of a normal life.
How could this be if Jesus said that no one knows the day or hour?
Well because Jesus Also said; Matthew 24:34 I can promise you that some of the people of this generation will still be alive when all this happens.
Now my question is; Why would the Son of God, or God, if your Christian theology believes Jesus is God, make such a statement, knowing full well that some 2000 years later, he still wouldn’t be showing up?
Did Jesus not know that making a statement that implies that “This Generation will still be alive when this happens” would Confuse Billions of his loyal followers, and lead many of them to an untimely death at worse, or a difficult economic life at the least.
Jesus is suppose to be all knowing-all powerful. Yet the fact that He could not perceive the damage that this one verse would cause to his followers as Century after Century, Millennium, after Millennium would come and go, causing tremendous amount of disappointment to Billions of his loyal followers, either proves that He’s not as wise a people believe, or He doesn’t have the power to predict what the future holds for his worshipers, or He doesn’t care what happens to his loyal followers.
Proverbs 13:12 Delayed hope makes the heart sick, but fulfilled desire is a tree of life.
If anything this verse in the bible has cause,…... it’s that a lot of Christians went from being Christian to being Atheist.
But it’s not just Jesus’s words about the generation that would not pass. It’s the entire Christian Greek Scriptures are riddled with implications that can be interpreted by every generation that ‘Their Generation’ is the one that will witness the Last days.
And when the Last days never comes, Husbands, Mothers and children are left with a broken heart, as they watch their loved ones get old, sickly, and finally die.
1 John 2:18 Children, it is the last hour;
1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith,
1 Peter 4:7 The end of all things is near;
2 Peter 3:3 in the last days mockers will come with their mocking,
Jude 1:18 “In the last times people who ridicule God will appear.
Sprinkling incense back in the early days of Christianity was their 1975.
So if you think 1975 messed up your life economically, Imagine the early Christian Mother living under the Roman authority, who refused to sprinkle some incense over a fire as a sign of loyalty to the State. This refusal was seen as a challenge to the authority of the state and in many cases led to not only this Christian Mother’s execution in a horrible way, but many Christian Mothers, and Fathers and Children who were under the Christian indoctrination, met an early demise. Usually they were thrown to the lions as spectators rallied at the sport.
Thus leaving Husbands, Mothers and children with a broken heart, and having to fend for themselves.
What bible verse told the early Christians they shouldn’t sprinkle incense over the fire because God said it meant Worship of a Human? There is no verse condemning sprinkling incense. It was an interpretation by Christian Elders or whatever they were called back then. Many Christians died because of this interpretation by “Humans”
Imagine if you were born back then instead of our time. And You were married to a wonderful woman. A great mother to your four children. But indoctrinated into this bible interpretation theology. And she was put into a situation where she was asked to sprinkle a pinch of incense to show loyalty to the State, but the Congregation elders or some type of Governing Body back then told her she couldn’t do that because it would displease Jehovah, and because of the indoctrination into this Christian theology, she listened to the elders and refused sprinkling incense, and was thrown into the lions……...How Would You feel?
I’ve see this happen to may JW in our modern times. The husband wakes up, the wife believes he has become apostate, and the elders encourage Her to leave him, she leaves him, the family is broken up, the children had no full-time father anymore. Eventually the husband meets another woman who is not a jw, marries her and moves far away. Leaving his former wife who stays single for the rest of her life, struggling financially and being lonely and depressed because the Bible is a book that has been used for millenniums, to confuse and misdirect “Good” people whose only desire is to be a good person.
The Governing Body is just part of a long list of idiotic humans who have used a book that is so contradictory, that anyone can interpret any verse in a way that will misdirect a person to their eventual demise.
If there was no Bible, there would have never been a 1975.
Never a No Blood Doctrine, No disfellowshipping, No shunning, no judicial committees where the least knowledgeable men are judge, jury, and executioner.
And….No one would have spent 60 years of their life serving 11 old men in New York, most of whom they have never met. Old men who are so delusional that they believe they are going to rule not just the earth, but the entire Universe as Kings forever and ever.
And on top of that. Stephen Lett reveled a few years ago, that they will also be able to resurrect the dead. …….You can’t get any more delusional than that.
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1975 !
by Sea Breeze inhow many of you here remember 1975?
i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.
those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.
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liam
Sea Breeze, of course we all heard of 1975, it hard not to, considering the Internet reveals everything these days. But PIMI parents tell us that it was over zealous publishers that made a big deal of it, not God's Organization.
The magazines you pointed out shows that the WT did have some of the responsibility in coercing the members that 1975 was significant, but the publishers that believed it to the point of selling their homes and quitting their jobs to pioneer also bear some responsibility.
Not everyone sold their homes and not everyone quit their jobs to pioneer. That's what gives the WT credence when they say "It was overzealous publisher that are at fault"
Since the young people like me or younger never "Felt" the emotional High of 1975, it means nothing to us. It's like reading stories about the followers of Marshall Applewhite, the leader of the Heaven's Gate cult, which believed in extraterrestrial salvation and organized a mass suicide in 1997
The stores are interesting, but we don't lose sleep over it or talk about it with each other. It was something in the past that didn't affect us. And the people that followed him to the death were just people who for some reason believed Applewhite had some type of "Divine Knowledge"
Just like the PIMI Jehovah Witnesses of today that still follow everything 11 old men in New York say, "Even if it doesn't make sense from a human standpoint"
Or people who believe Biden was the best President the United States ever had, and AOC should be the Next President of the USA.
There seems to be two types of humans on the planet.
Those who want to know the truth and investigate, research, and dig in.
And those who believe everything they are told and wont do the hard work of researching, investigating, and digging in to find the facts. Because it takes time to do the work.
And sometimes, people want comforting lies instead of Unpleasant truths.
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1975 !
by Sea Breeze inhow many of you here remember 1975?
i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.
those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.
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1975--I hope the newer generations never forget.
1975...............What about it!
That was almost 30 years before I was born.
That's like telling me....don't forget 1727???