Blablaman
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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Blablaman
Thanks for your post.
If you go to the charities commission website and try to complain about the 1400 or so JW charities, their system will not allow multiple complaints one type of charity...strange that. In order to complain, one would have to write to them, which I'm doing.
You could, as you rightly say, complain about the Bible and Tract Society of GB, yet as you again rightly said, they distance themselves by being an associate charity with all monies being filtered by complex and clouded accounting system. Most of the accounts of the smaller 1400 JW charities fall under the £10k limit and do not have to submit accounts. It would very easy for the JW's to legally manipulate this system to their benefit.
If you search on the Charity Commission web site for "The Bible and Tract Society of Great Britain" it draws a blank. Why?
Even if you look at the “Summary Info” available;
http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SIR/ENDS61%5C0001077961_SIR_09_E.PDF
It does not say what money came from where and is spent on what exactly. What I want to know is; a. How much UK Tax Relief/Gift Aid is directed via the Bible and Tract Society and further via to the Watchtower Corp, which then invested into Hedge Funds?
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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Blablaman
Cedars.
I'm a little slow on the up-take with your contributions on the web with anti-JW & WT matters. I want to say thanks and well done. How can we get this ball rolling - it's a crime that JW’s/WT get Gift Aid and the WT Corp are investing money into Hedge Funds, some of which is probably UK tax payers money.
What good do you think the Plymouth Brethren case will make?
I've been looking into the accounts (not all) of the 1400 or so JW charities, including the Bible and Tract Society, who last year turned over £40 million. What do they do for the public benefit? They are very creative with their accounting and most appear to not have to submit annual account statements to the Charities Commission...Self Regulated? Why can't I do that? No, I have to pay tax, but despite being a corporation the WT does not...Congregation money is largely cash and could be moved from congregation to congregation to keep accounts lower (below the £10K limit) than would be normally.
What is going on with the charities commission and the Plymouth Brethren case? I fear it’s a token effort to show the Commission are being pro-active, yet to further challenge the WT and JW charities would appear to be threatening the very fabric of the Christian and Anglican Church, of which the JW/WT Corp are strangely members...
I suspect the only route to ending this once and for all is to challenge the JW religion; is it a religion, or is it a sect/cult. Based on the WT being their all ruling entity, how can it be a religion? It’s fundamentally flawed. If they say the word of God and Bible are, well, they re-write that according to their needs!
For the Public Benefit? Well, there are approx 140,000 JW’s in the UK with a total UK population of around 62 Million. How can their cult be for the public benefit?
Something has to change!
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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Blablaman
Come on, lets pass this on in any way we can. There has only been about 20 signatures in a few weeks.
Let make this Christmas agood one, buy getting Jehovah's Witnesses off of our tax exempting and charity list!
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Tax-free Religion
by turtleturtle ini have never understood why religions consider their tax-free status being taken away an attack on their religious freedom.
religious freedom and tax freedom are two completely different things.
if anything, wouldn't removing tax-free status from religion hinder these large corporations from engaging in questionable activity and being allowed a veil to protect individual members?.
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Blablaman
The only real way I see fighting this is to prove legally that JW's are not Christian, and as a result is it not a religion.
They never use the word Christendom in a positive context, nor do they when discussing non believers of JW doctrine. They have repeatedly re-written the bible to their own needs-could this possibly be criminal behaviour? Now they have stupidly attemted manipulating the law to their own benefit. I have yet to see one example of their charity funds to benefit the greater public, beyon JW/WT.
I say, give them independence and as a corporation, make them pay tax!
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Tax-free Religion
by turtleturtle ini have never understood why religions consider their tax-free status being taken away an attack on their religious freedom.
religious freedom and tax freedom are two completely different things.
if anything, wouldn't removing tax-free status from religion hinder these large corporations from engaging in questionable activity and being allowed a veil to protect individual members?.
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VOTE TO REVOKE UK CHARITY STATUS OF JW CHARITIES! URGENT!
by Blablaman innot long left... closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am.
vote now!.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29949 .
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Blablaman
Not Long Left... Closes 20/02/2013 @ 08:01am
VOTE NOW!
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UK JW Charities Financial Reports
by JWB inuk jw charities financial reports (pdf links).
note: a majority of uk congregations have no available reports.
this list represents only about a fifth of the total number and may not be the most up-to-date.
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Blablaman
I've just discovered all this and have been analysing all the accounts, as many as I can. They all appear to be incomplete. No like an account summary I’ve seen. If you check other Christian charities they appear as I would expect with detail.
Has anybody ever wondered why and how most JW charities fall under the £10k threshold?Think; all receipts, other than legacies, refunds and the Gift Aid are cash. What is stopping cash from being moved from one congregation to another? I see this happening within the accounts anyway, but it could be done and not officially recorded. This would potentially spread out all 1400 or so JW charities takings, and help keep them under the £10k account submission limit required by the Charities Commission keeping most accounting under the radar. The patterns of donation amounts paid at each congregation could indicate any anomaly.
What bothers me most is; I can’t find any record of real charitable expenditure. All the money raised goes pretty much exclusively to further JW and The Watchtower Corporation, and not the public benefit. This is shocking as they are a charity, in receipt of Gift Aid! They are actually a business! Money is being directed into Hedge Funds... our tax.
1077961 - WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF BRITAIN claim they are not a fund raising charity...how does that work?
http://opencharities.org/charities/1077961
http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SIR/ENDS61%5C0001077961_SIR_20110831_E.PDF
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=1077961&SubsidiaryNumber=0Come on everybody, we have to do something to stop this abuse of charity status! VOTE TO REVOKE JW CHARITY STATUS NOW!
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The One show - JW clip (UK)
by Peppermint ini wonder if this guy (hugo montgomery-swan) works for the bbc?
he looks the type.
i have seen him a number of time doing this wholesome-jw-family-act courtesy of my liscence fee!.
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Blablaman
I’ve been reading more into this guy Hugo Montgomery-Swan and Jehovah Witness’s...
Anybody who has read about the invention of Jehovah Witness and Charles Taze Russell must question how a new "religion" can be created a few thousand years after any bible had been written? Surely that raises dubious questions about the integrity of the given faith and a person who could actually believe the tripe that is Jehovah Witness?
What I have also been looking into is the matter of such organisations and how they become eligible for charity status, and thus tax exempt. This guy Hugo Montgomery-Swan who seems to be quite pushy and have some dubious history on the web is actually promoting Jehovah and is part of a registered open charity;
http://opencharities.org/charities/1067008
Looking into HMS’s history, he appeared to employ quite a lot of Jehovah Witness's. His son is also not shy of coming across like, well a bit of a git really; "I'm gonna take a couple of girls out..." What ever happened to the alleged Jehovah "...Jehovah's Witnesses consider secular society to be morally corrupt and under the influence of Satan, and limit their social interaction with non-Witnesses."? (This is taken from the Wikipedia page on Jehovah Witness.) But if they are girls and they sell boats, it’s OK to use them! They MUST be Jehovah’s girls! ;-)
This poses the questions of the integrity of people like Hugo Montgomery-Swan, and his son Tom Montgomery-Swan who are clearly happy to be promoted exploiting what appears to be anything for personal gain;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwCKy_tQEMc&feature=relmfu
I have real concerns; how do we know what the tax except income and expenditure is spent on? Or, where the money comes from? From what I can interpret, the Jehovah Witness "charities" expenditure is spent largely on promoting global/local Jehovah Witness, related events, resources and largely on Jehovah publications. We are talking millions here!
Should this be tax exempt?
If so, I might try starting a new "faith" and apply for tax exemption, just like the Pastafarianism faith;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Yes, it’s true; they became a charity and became tax exempt! The link here is worth reading and as I’m sure most tax-paying individuals would be horrified to think that the UK Government is supporting Jehovah Witness.
http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=23660.0
It’s madness!