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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

These two events have hurt the economy: 911 event and Covid

The 9/11 terrorist attacks on America caused significant economic damage in the immediate aftermath, rippling through global financial markets.
Airlines and insurance companies took the hardest immediate hit, and U.S. stock markets initially fell more than 10% in the days after.
Despite its lasting impact on the American psyche, the economic and financial impact of 9/11 was fairly muted, with markets bouncing back months after to new highs.
This was helped, in part, by a resilient American economy along with support and stimulus from the federal government.

While it is difficult to tell exactly what the economic damage from the global COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic has been, it has had severe negative impacts on the global economy. During 2020, the world's collective gross domestic product (GDP) fell by 3.4 percent. To put this number in perspective, global GDP reached 84.54 trillion U.S. dollars in 2020 – meaning that a 3.4 percent drop in economic growth results in over two trillion U.S. dollars of lost economic output. However, the global economy quickly recovered from the initial shock, reaching positive growth levels again in 2021. That year, it reached 92.3 trillion U.S. dollars and it is expected to continue to grow in the coming years, although Russia's war in Ukraine since February 2022 and its impact on the world's economy may hamper economic growth.

Has the fulfillment of Babylon the Great prophecy taken place, or are we to expect a greater world economic collapse? I am looking for answers to the meaning of Babylon the Great. Any thoughts on the matter aside from Empire of False Religion? I believe that Babylon the Great has fallen, but the finality of its doom will be when Christ arrives in The Kingdom of God in all of his glory.

Estephan

Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore. The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

by Vanderhoven7 in

what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

Godlyman

I agree peacefulpete. Here are some examples of famous "cult" leaders falling under the category of dangerous:

Cult leaders’ charismatic personalities, fringe beliefs and lust for power have inspired hundreds to follow their unconventional philosophies — with often-tragic results. Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and others have gained international notoriety for exposing the dark side of humanity.

Estephan

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And JW's wholeheartedly SWALLOW this!!

by BoogerMan in

didn't peter say that god is not partial?

(acts 10:34) the 'fartful slave' in warwick disagrees!.

w11 8/15 p. 24 par.

Godlyman

I myself have never seen a single scripture proving there are 144,000 anointed Christians. In fact, I have never even seen a single scripture proving there is a faithful and discreet "class", aside from the slave being only "one" person.

The Watchtower Society use the "Anointed" doctrine in order to maintain their authority over the congregations. This holds true for many religions claiming to be of a "special" group. This is so they can sway people to contribute their monies to their organization.

Estephan aka: Brownboy

P.S. When inserting your own text into another's writing, use a bracket [ like this ] to notify the reader that it is your insertion rather than the original author's.

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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

by Vanderhoven7 in

what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

Godlyman

As far as the JW's being a cult. This could be said to relate to every belief in existence according to the definition. However, a cult, I believe. is one that strays away from that of common practice in a normal society.

Definition of cult

noun

1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers:the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
adjective
1. of or relating to a cult.
2. of, for, or attracting a small group of devotees:a cult movie.

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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

by Vanderhoven7 in

what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

Godlyman

Rattigan350:3 hours ago

"One cannot leave Jehovah's Witnesses with one's reputation intact." If one leaves, one's reputation is now that of a leaver. Why should the reputation stay anything different? "You have to believe that Jehovah`s Witnesses are the only true Christian religion" If you don't believe that JWs are the only true Religion, then you need to go to the one you believe is the only true religion." You can read their literature, but they won't read yours." Not true. I won't take another's, but I'll sit down and we will discuss it. "They try to separate you from the real world." Taylor Swift and Oprah do that.

This is one "fact" that cannot be disputed: There is no such thing as "One" True religion. Every sect has their own "understanding". Who's to say one is the correct one over the other? It is true that some beliefs are easily dispelled based upon what is written in the bible.

This is one aspect of any religion or belief. All humans will not be judged upon what we might truly believe to be true. We will all be judged according to our "deeds", or how we conduct ourselves in our everyday lives. Afterall, there are those that might be swayed by another religion considered to be led by false prophets. As it is written, even God's own people will be misled by false prophets. It is the intent of the heart that matters.

I followed the teachings of the JW's for many years, and still believe in most of their teachings. It was around the year 2003 that caused me to leave the organization after discovering some teachings to be untrue. I now rely upon my own understanding and do not consider myself to be a part of any organized religious group.

Estephan aka: Brownboy

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

Now why would God hate world economics? Did He ever intend for people to sell to others that which He intended to be free by means of work through our own hands? Say for instance, farming for our own sustenance in order to provide for our family's rather than others creating wealth for themselves by selling products to other nations. In fact, many wars are fought over resources which could benefit a particular group.

9 Wars That Were Really About Commodities

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

Babylon the Great is the world economy I do believe. Nothing else makes any sense. All nations, countries, etc. are dependent upon economics in order to sustain their government.

What is Economic Collapse?

Economic collapse refers to a period of national or regional economic breakdown where the economy is in distress for a long period, which can range from a few years to several decades. During periods of economic distress, a country is characterized by social chaos, social unrest, bankruptcies, reduced trade volumes, currency volatility, and breakdown of law and order.

Now why would God direct His people to get out of the stock market? It is so they do not lose their financial wealth or means to support their way of life.

And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

It seems as though these scriptures describe the attack on the world trade center located in New York, which is where the stock exchange is located:

“The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.’ “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble;and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.

The New York Stock Exchange is the world’s largest stock exchange. It provides a marketplace for buying and selling millions of corporate stocks and other securities per day. The NYSE lists much of the S&P 500, the Dow Jones Industrial Average, and the world's largest corporations.

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

Kosonen:

In fact there is a city today that leads the world. In the past it has been other great cities. But today it is New York. There is no other city so influential as New York in our time, much due to the Rockefeller foundation. And the spiritistic Masonic Lodges world leaders belong to

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

As I have mentioned before, Religion does "NOT" have rulership of the kings of the world, or the nations as we know them to be.

The merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.” Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’

It is obvious that those that trade on the sea are those that import and export certain goods. World economy is based upon sales of goods, and many have died by the hands of those nations that war over territories and such, that are plentiful with resources. Is it possible that Covid, which affected the entire world economy, is punishment from God against the Harlot? I have been pondering over this for quite some time.

Estephan