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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

Without a doubt, I believe everyone agrees that these scriptures represent the birth of The Kingdom of GOD, am I correct?

"Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days."

However, who are the the rest of the woman's offspring [the remnant] that satan causes war against?

"And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

I will reveal them shortly.

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

The meaning of the faithful and discreet slave (servant) parable explained from the slave's true experience.

45“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. 47Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.

First point in order: I am witness to the birth of The Kingdom of God, which took place shortly after the 911 event, not in 1914. When Jesus arrived in The Kingdom of GOD, I was appointed to my position. This is when Jesus, master of the slave, came. I will begin to unfold the events surrounding 911, based upon the scriptures which reveals the meaning of what is written.

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

GODLYMAN:
Nobody ELSE has to prove anything.
The burden of proof would be on you or whoever else would make any such divine claims!

I agree girl with long hair :) The burden would be upon me to prove that I am the faithful and discreet slave. My experiences could prove it, but they are beyond belief to most people. I have been on this forum many years back while under the power of the spirit. I have read my own postings and am bewildered by the things I wrote. But it is all true.

Who am I? I am Estephan Leuese (My God given name), out of the tribe of Levi. The true slave, chosen by GOD (YHWH). I am now at risk of being banned from this forum, lol. I will reveal to you matters only the slave knows.

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

What possessions is Jesus talking about? If it is in reference to all Christians, then how do Christians go about beating one another? How can he put many Christians in charge of his possessions? You have heard of the expression, too many chiefs and not enough Indians? There exists a dispute as to whether or not the slave refers to a single person or all Christians. I believe him to be one person.

Although I prefer not to argue over semantics the scriptures mentioned only one person as in "him": And the Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has.

If I were to say that I am he, how could you prove me wrong?

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

So, are we all in agreement that the WTS is "not" the faithful and discreet slave as they claim to be? If so, then who really is? Does he make himself known to others? Does he know things that others do not know? Hmmm. What are your own thoughts on the matter?

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

Huh?

DesirousOfChange2 hours agoI think you are here to "witness" to us about YOUR religious ideas.
IF SO: Don't go away mad, just go away. Nobody cares

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I`m going out on a limb here ! ....PIMO

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

pimo , as i said i`m going out on a limb here and i might upset some people ,but i really don`t think this is a real strategy that works and doesn`t help the person who is still in.. while you may be doing this to keep the peace in the household and keep relations somewhat stable in the family arrangement ,it`s not helping the person who is still under the control of wt/gb to break free from it ,and isn`t that what you would really like to happen ?.

and are their children involved as well ?

that`s another issue ,the longer they are subject to this control the harder it will be for them to disengage get free.. maybe you should re-evaluate what you could do more to help your partner / spouse or whatever to free themselves from this bondage they have involved themselves in.. [ of course their may be others who are quite happy to have their partners/mates under the control of the wt/gb.

Godlyman

I have faced this dilemma recently. Not as a family but on my own, so no children involved. Some years back I decided that many of the JW's teachings did not add up, so I pretty much left the congregation. About a couple months back I attended a Sunday meeting and many of my friends greeted me thinking I was still a JW I believe. However, I had relayed to a close friend that I did not believe in the FDS anymore so could not return as a JW.

During the watchtower study I raised my hand in order to give a comment stating my name and that I was attending as a visitor. I noticed thereafter; the conductor refused to call upon me in order to comment. Will they allow me to visit on occasion without taking steps to gain me back or considering me to be an apostate? In order to find out, I feel the need to contact the elders in order to explain my circumstances. I will then know what to do.

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

Biahi5 hours ago
Anyone making that claim should be able to prove it.

I agree with Biahi. The way to prove it is by first examining the scripture in order to understand the meaning of the slave.

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

First, it seems this servant (singular) is one person and not a group of people the JW's identify as the faithful and discreet slave "class". And Jesus will appoint this slave as ruler over his household. Does this mean Jesus will appoint the slave as king upon the earth over the congregation?

Estephan

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Babylon the Great

by Godlyman in

do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.

Godlyman

Bible prophecy relates to leaders and world events. A fulfillment of prophecy is usually a major event and historical. Otherwise, we would not be able to identify them. Which events are historical in our time?

911, which led to the longest war in the Middle East: "And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

The many floods across the planet along with global warming: "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be".

“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Yes, the 911 event is described in chapter 13 of the book of Revelation with United States being the Beast. And the mass flooding across the planet where the powers of the heavens (atmosphere) will be shaken along with the roaring of the sea.

Fulfillment of prophecy is happening before our eyes. We just need to recognize them.

Estephan

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

Godlyman

If anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?

Estephan