Posts by elbib

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

WhatshallIcallmyself,

Book of Job is an attempt by someone who guessed the answer to the big question: Why does suffering exist?

Problem with book of Job is that It is God who initiates the subject asking Satan: "where do you coming from ... have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him on the earth." This is something a loving Father would never do because it is this initiative of God that ultimately brought suffering on Job, his family, and even on God Himself, Jesus ......

God does not need validation from others. Even you know that You do what is right--and you don't bother what others think about it. People can have varying opinions.

If someone accuses that my children stay with me because of the asset I have accumulated, I would not bother about such comments. I would just throw another practical question: SO WHAT?

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

Diogenesister,

Good point.

If Satan is taken to be a person as viewed by JWs, then it is a great problem for God who seemed to be really trapped by Satan to the point that the Almighty had to beg humanity to help Him to vindicate His sovereignty (Pro 27:11) and to ask his first-born to be killed by Satan to please Satan, and finally to declare an unrelated result that those who believe in the arrangement (punishing the innocent to please Satan) could bring forgiveness of sins.....See how much Satan makes God do senseless acts

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

vidiot,

Ttile came naturally: I was just thinking about the chronological development of my DF which started from the subject of Satan

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

steve2,

That's what exactly made me angry within myself. CO's behaviour shows how much the fear factor rules the JW org--something that cannot be the characteristics of organization of God, who is a fountain of joy.

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The real reason so many witnesses end up here....

by stuckinarut2 in

why do so many witnesses end up coming to forums like this?.

no doubt it is because of the fact that the society disallows any form of sincere questioning of teachings or doctrines or history etc.... if there was open discussion allowed - free of repercussions and punishment, then no one would feel stifled.

if genuine concerns could be raised, then no one would feel smothered or unable to share thoughts... then in turn many would not leave.... but due to the high control, authoritarian culture the society has created, many feel trapped, and end up searching outside of official channels...and leaving the society.....

elbib

Yet they describe themselves as "Motherly organization," "spirit-guided organization" and publish article such as "Jehovah is God of reasonableness",

shows they do not know what they themselves are saying

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

stuckinarut2,

It is same as "straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!" (Mathew 23:24) Doubting even a verse of the Bible means they immediately perceive a threat to their very existence.

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

stuckinarut2,

They can! Two elders who heard me are the witnesses. JC will put it writing that invitation was sent out to the erring one, but party refused to come.

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

sohatnow,

No loving father will let a mad dog to wander even in the vicinity of his house. Similarly, God will not let a wicked Satan to roam “intent on swallowing His children.”

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

elbib

Crazy Angel,

That's an interesting irony which I did not notice. Nice thought--I became a pawn of Satan who never existed!

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Galations 1:8, 9 and Nu-Lite®

by kairos in

however, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond what we declared to you as good news, let him be accursed.

9 as we have said above, i also now say again, whoever it is that is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him be accursed.. guess what?

wtbts is accursed.. they go beyond.

elbib

through their God-dishonoring teaching of Issue of Universal Sovereignty too, they went "beyond what is written in the scriptures."