Thank you David_Jay for the Jewish perspective it makes a lot of sense to me the Bible mainly being a Jewish book
smiddy3
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Faith and the Bible.Is it all Just An Illusion ? With no basis in the real world ?
by smiddy3 inthe bible states that :.
"faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for"...." the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld" heb.11:1. looking at the "true" history of the wtb&ts and not the sanitized version jehovah`s witnesses like to portray nowadays ,nothing the jw`s put faith in ,in over 103 years of their prophecy`s , expectations ,whether it related to the world powers , the king of the north or the king of the south ,the united nations (which they joined for 10 years ) as the disgusting thing that causes desolation,their now acceptance of things they accused christendom of doing such as using atm`s for donating funds,(they never solicit for money){ excuse me while i puke} .all of the failed prophecy`s of the the end/armageddon/great tribulation and the end of false religion babylon the great and the list goes on and on and on.. 1914 , 1919, 1925 ,1975 ,the year 2000 ,and of course since 1914 any day soon , just around the corner ,its imminent ,in our day ,it cant be any more than 5 years away .. 6000 years of human history ended in the late 18th century .
oops sorry ,6000 years of human history didn`t end till 1975 and that is a date that would be appropiate for jesus christ to start his 1000 year reign.. excuse me , faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for ?.
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Who is "The" Creator ? Jehovah or Jesus ?
by smiddy3 inis jehovah the creator ?.
apparently jehovah created the "word" or "logos" ( jesus).
and he never created anything else according to bible scripture.. however the first born of creation the logos /jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.. so then isn`t jesus also a creator ?.
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smiddy3
David _jay
My OP question was intended for those associated with the JW religion whether past or present members.
I didn`t have anybody else in mind ,maybe it was naive of me .
It appears you are limiting the question to Christians as you are including Christian texts in the discussion.
More specifically to JW`s or ex JW`s and if others with a different viewpoint like yourself have input I appreciate that.
Isn`t that what a discussion board is all about ?
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JW Parents getting... DIVORCED
by raven inhello everyone!it has been quite some time since i've posted, but a lot has happened.
i am still with my boyfriend (mentioned in my past and very first post!
) life is going well.
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smiddy3
I hope you are handling it OK raven
.In my experience with the JW`s in over 33 years ,I was surprised just how many couples got divorced and re-married again .I was associated with about 6 congregations in that time and one sister had been married 3 times that I know of.
Now that I think back, I did know that she had been trying to live a healthier lifestyle.. Gym, workout, eat healthy, and she was starting to look great physically,
Actually that is a good indication that someone has found someone else or is looking for someone else,it`s not so uncommon .
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Dietary Quirks Among JWs
by millie210 ini recently had to accompany an older family member out of state to a family reunion.
it was a big reunion and not much was overtly made of the fact that i am "misguided" and not attending meetings (lost soul that i am) which was nice.
the thing i noticed that i was most struck by was all the dietary quirks in evidence during our 3 days together.
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smiddy3
A then JW friend of mine when we were witnesses ,got sucked into one of the diet fads that were doing the rounds of JW`s at the time 30 or 40 years ago.
And he wore a T-Shirt that said "Lose weight Ask me How" the thing is he had a big beer gut which used to really crack us up ,it was so comical to see.
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Dietary Quirks Among JWs
by millie210 ini recently had to accompany an older family member out of state to a family reunion.
it was a big reunion and not much was overtly made of the fact that i am "misguided" and not attending meetings (lost soul that i am) which was nice.
the thing i noticed that i was most struck by was all the dietary quirks in evidence during our 3 days together.
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smiddy3
A good JW friend of my wife and I was in hospital suffering from breast cancer many years ago and the woman patient next to her was saying when she got out of hospital she was only going to eat healthy foods from then on.
Our friend said to her" don`t even bother" as she had been eating nothing but healthy foods all her life didn`t smoke and didn`t drink alcohol .And she still got cancer.
She died too young ,she was a lovely young lady
R.I.P. Anita.
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The Ever-Changing Song Book
by Cimarrona inthe songs in the old brown song book were way better than these new ones.
had they not changed the songs, i may never have left (halfway joking).
they gave no feeling, no soul (but of course there's no such thing as soul or whatever)!
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smiddy3
Welcome cimarrona some of those later songs 80`s/90`s were cringe worthy.
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Avatar image or whatever it is called
by amicabl incould someone please tell me why my image is either sideways or upside down.
i feel an utter fool asking this question but i can't find any help anywhere.
sorry..
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Welcome amicabi from an ex S.E.Qlder ,I need to stand on my head to get a better look at you.
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Is it better to have a false hope than have no hope?
by sinboi injust got the news.
a very close classmate of mine met an accident and died last nite.... just 4 months after i da'd from the borg.. if i am still in, i wouldn't be so sad.
he has the hope of resurrection.. but now that i am out, i realise that resurrection in paradise is all bullshit.. so what's next?
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smiddy3
smiddy you don,t just sound cynical you sound like you are still lying to yourself.
Ruby 456 i`m not sure where your coming from here ,how am I lying to myself ?
I looked back at what I said and I just don`t see it ? please enlighten me.
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Favorite Quotations from Movies
by compound complex in"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
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"You can`t fight in here ,this is the war room".
Dr,Strangelove. or
"How to Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" with Rod Steiger and Peter Sellars and Slim Pickens.
"The World won`t end With A bang But A Whimper " On the beach Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner
" The vessel from the pestle has the brew that is true" " The chalice from the palace......"
The Court jester Danny Kaye.
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Random and unsafe conditions
by ironsnake656 inone of the things that helped me in my awakening and fading process from jwland was something that i call "random failures".
let me explain it.
it happened like 4 years ago.
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Very good points made by all so far
.Obviously not everything is all rosy even after the thousand year reign of Christ Jesus.
Is anybody taking notice of Rev.:20 :7-10 ? Take this scripture into consideration just how could the thousand years of JC`s rule be called a period of paradise.? When it is obviously their are going to oppose the numbers which are as the sand of the sea.which will result in a war ? to end those humans who rebel in that thousand year reign and finally end Satans involvement in earths affairs ..... finally.
{Why he couldn`t / wouldn`t do it in the garden of Eden and saved us all thousands of years of human suffering is beyond me.
According to JW`s it was to prove a point ,big deal ,and millions if not billions of human beings died many with horrific deaths .
Thank you Jehovah { NOT}.