For the sake of charity7 and other newbies ,lurkers , could you please elaborate on your statement that the Gospels differ as to what night Jesus held the last supper ?
smiddy3
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Memorial Question
by charity7 inhi guys.
my husband is a jw and i have a question because yesterday was the memorial.
i was wondering how they pick the date for the memorial because, even though religious groups are celebrating today as easter, next sunday is actually the anniversary date of the resurrection according to the jewish calendar?
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Remark at memorial about growing annointed numbers
by Gorbatchov indon’t know if it was part of the script.. at the memorial the remark about growing annointed numbers including this numbers from 2015 to 2017 was made (from 13.000 to 18.000+).. reason for the growing numbers could be:.
- feeling annointed because of former believe.
- psychical reasons.
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smiddy3
Maybe Gorby the growing number of partakers is because the indoctrination into the religion has become so dumb downed over the years that newer people and children growing up in the religion are less articulated about what they really believe anymore..
In other words a failure of the organization to teach newbies their core beliefs.
Also the fact that people are also getting fed up with the ever putting off the end is just around the corner mantra ,realizing they are going to die before the big A comes and want the reward when they die and not be waiting in a grave for God knows how long.
Seeing so many of their elderly faithful brothers and sisters die without gaining their reward or seeing the New System in their lifetime.
What do you think ?
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O neg universal doner
by bikerchic inso i donate blood because i can.
i donate every 4 months when the bloodmobile comes to my place of work.
i know it helps.. what about you, do you donate blood?
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smiddy3
I`m too old to donate blood so the next best thing for me was to become an Organ Donner and hopefully it will help some one.
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I got back from the memorial . . .
by neat blue dog init was pretty mundane for the most part, same songs, same outline.
the only new thing they added was the video at the end, where stephen lett speaks to the visitors and commends them for coming and recommends they go to jwdotorg and also start a bible study.
they also showed a bar graph with figures increasing every year for jws, memorial attendance and memorial partakers.
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smiddy3
He said that since the number of partakers has been steadily rising in recent years, it is proof of God's blessing and the nearness of the end,
That is the complete opposite of what they used to state, the number of partakers dying off was proof the end was near as they got closer to the end of the last Century .
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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smiddy3
When I finally realized that after 100 years of "Witnessing" to only about a third of the earths population that the vast majority of people they "witnessed" too ,had no idea what they were talking about.
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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!
by StephaneLaliberte inmost jws don't see this as a problem.
they reason that.
just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.
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smiddy3
I think the biggest problems here , have been and not in any order are .:
1. Jehovah`s Witnesses have viewed sexual abuse against a child in their Congregations as a sin and not a crime ? for far too long ?
2. For JW`s Elders to report such allegations to law enforcement / child protection authorities would be an admission that the JW religion is no better than any other false religion and to report such an allegation would only bring reproach on Jehovah`s name.
3 . First and foremost that must be protected is the image of the WTB&TS /JW.Org. representing Jehovah God and his recently installed King Christ Jesus in the Heavens in 1914.
4 . And if anybody who claims to be a Jehovah`s Witness and commits a wrongdoing to bring reproach on his name and Earthly organization we will simply point out they are only volunteers and will be disfellowshiped .
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So a religion based on a book by another religion?
by TTWSYF inso does anyone else find it odd that jws base their whole faith on the bible?.
the bible was never in the plan for christianity.
the apostles spread the good news as they were instructed to by christ jesus .
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smiddy3
So does anyone else find it odd that JWs base their whole faith on the bible?
That`s a fallacy ,JW`s CLAIM to base their beliefs on the Bible ,however that is not the case as has been brought out many times on this forum one way or another.
Just a couple of facts to remind us of that.
1. The Searcher has pointed out that their are over 30 Scriptures in the New Testament that Christians were to be witnesses of Jesus { not Jehovah }
Their is not one NT Scripture that says Christians followers of Jesus were to be witnesses of Jehovah not one.
2. Neither Jesus or any of his Apostles / disciples or anybody else as recorded in the NT ever uttered the name Jehovah in the Christian Greek Scriptures .
And as proof of that statement look no further than the publication by the WTB&TS book
"The kingdom Interlinear Of The Christian Greek Scriptures "
A word for word translation of the Greek into English.
So TRUE Christians according to the Bible are to be witnesses of Jesus and not Jehovah .
Phil. 2:9-11
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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!
by StephaneLaliberte inmost jws don't see this as a problem.
they reason that.
just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.
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smiddy3
By the very fact JW`s hold a Judicial Committee to investigate Child Sexual abuse or any other abuse against a child condemns them as being negligent in protecting a minor.
Their holding a Judicial Committee is an admission of an allegation of a crime has been committed and should have been reported to the Police/Child protection Authorities when they have been first made aware of it and let the appropriate authorities investigate the complaint and not be involved at all until after the matter has been finalized by the legal system.
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Memorial Weekend Questions
by Iamallcool ini just don’t remember when it was the last time the memorial falls on saturday.
anyway, do they meet for field service tomorrow(saturday)?
do they have their meetings on sunday?
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smiddy3
At least you get some fringe benefits polishing off the wine
and AMAN to that
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Make the Truth Your Own
by neat blue dog inthis is something that hit me just relatively recently.. the phrase "make the truth your own" is a very famous catch phrase in jw culture.
it was a pet philosophy of daniel sydlik and has been used and is used in talks, literature and song.
every witness knows this trope.
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smiddy3
New Truth ,Old Truth , Present Truth ,Past Truth ,Real Truth , THE Truth .
My mind boggles as to how many " Truths" Jehovah`s Witnesses can believe in and then discard those same "Truths" when it suits them .?
Or rather when history makes it obvious their "Truth" was no such thing in the first place .