or is the universe just following the natural laws of physics etc,etc.. i remember when i was "in" talks and books by the society highlighted the order of the universe went like clockwork ,sun ,moon and stars all in their relative positions and not one out of their place .. however the advancement in science of the universe / astronomy shows a much more different picture that demonstrates a more chaotic realism of what actually goes on out their in this vast universe .. black holes , which can merge together , galaxies colliding and merging together , large meteors ,some of which have crashed here on earth ,supernovas ,stars being born and stars in their death throes .. just some of the things off the top of my head ,apparently their are many more.. i look forward to comments and some good book to read on the subject..
did Eve put the entire universe out of kilter when she munched on that "forbidden fruit"?
I hear what your saying Amelia the absurdity of thinking an act of disobedience petty as it was could cause all of this chaos in the universe ?
And if that was the case he doesn`t sound like an Almighty God to me.
hi jwa.
i want to encourage you to engage in some genuine conversation.. i appreciate what you are trying to do.
you clearly have a passion for your subject — you must have invested countless hours in your series of videos.
I`ll reserve my decision until I hear from JWA or his silence ,I`ll give him a week to think it over .
the sad reality for jehovah's witness children who must depend upon the courts to get critical medical care their parents reject for them, even when their lives depend upon it.
to support the irrational blood policy of the watchtower society.
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2018-12-05-three-jehovahs-witness-families-taken-to-court-to-save-childrens-lives/.
Three Jehovah`s Witness families taken to court to save these children`s lives because their parents apparently love JW.ORG more than their children .
And so far nobody else has made a comment ?
I refer to a previous post about Blood and the law
Kerry Louderback Whttp://ajwrb.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/blood-misrepresented-2005-kerry-louderback-wood-1.pdfood and her thesis
or is the universe just following the natural laws of physics etc,etc.. i remember when i was "in" talks and books by the society highlighted the order of the universe went like clockwork ,sun ,moon and stars all in their relative positions and not one out of their place .. however the advancement in science of the universe / astronomy shows a much more different picture that demonstrates a more chaotic realism of what actually goes on out their in this vast universe .. black holes , which can merge together , galaxies colliding and merging together , large meteors ,some of which have crashed here on earth ,supernovas ,stars being born and stars in their death throes .. just some of the things off the top of my head ,apparently their are many more.. i look forward to comments and some good book to read on the subject..
Or is the universe just following the natural laws of physics etc,etc.
I remember when I was "in" talks and books by the society highlighted the order of the universe went like clockwork ,sun ,moon and stars all in their relative positions and not one out of their place .
However the advancement in science of the universe / astronomy shows a much more different picture that demonstrates a more chaotic realism of what actually goes on out their in this vast universe .
Black holes , which can merge together , Galaxies colliding and merging together , large meteors ,some of which have crashed here on earth ,SuperNovas ,stars being born and stars in their death throes .
Just some of the things off the top of my head ,apparently their are many more.
I look forward to comments and some good book to read on the subject.
god says otherwise.
therefore who will you trust... the word of god or satan?
satan uses many people today to corrupt the things of god, as well as god's word.
If you want to know what a specific religion believes don`t go to their opponents to get truthful answers, go to the religion in question .
Paraphrasing what JW`s teach about their religion.
If you want to know the truth about Satan don`t go to a source {Bible} an opponent of Satan ,rather go to Satan himself.
The question is though unlike the Bible that people assert is God`s written word their is no such book that is claimed to be the written word of Satan .
We only have the opposer`s view of Satan which may be completely biased .and wrong.
jw`s were in my area for the first time in i don`t know how long.i`m in a regional area.
anyhow i was walking down my driveway with the purpose of going around to my outside fence to spray poison along the fence boundary.. across the road were two witness ladies talking together on the opposite side of the road and could clearly see me coming out of my house.
i proceeded to rake away newly mowed grass to better expose the area i was going to poison along my fence.. when the two ladies ,maybe 40`s and 50`s ?
Funny thing is they did knock on our door so my wife told me but at the time i was busily engaged on the throne and my wife wont answer the door to JW`s
jw`s were in my area for the first time in i don`t know how long.i`m in a regional area.
anyhow i was walking down my driveway with the purpose of going around to my outside fence to spray poison along the fence boundary.. across the road were two witness ladies talking together on the opposite side of the road and could clearly see me coming out of my house.
i proceeded to rake away newly mowed grass to better expose the area i was going to poison along my fence.. when the two ladies ,maybe 40`s and 50`s ?
JW`s were in my area for the first time in I don`t know how long.I`m in a regional area. Anyhow I was walking down my driveway with the purpose of going around to my outside fence to spray poison along the fence boundary.
Across the road were two witness ladies talking together on the opposite side of the road and could clearly see me coming out of my house. I proceeded to rake away newly mowed grass to better expose the area I was going to poison along my fence.
When the two ladies ,maybe 40`s and 50`s ? walk past me and offer a greeting which I acknowledged and gave one back thinking this is their opportunity to engage me in discussion .
But what did they do ? they just kept on walking without a further howdy do ?
And now I`m devastated ,whats wrong with me ? that they pass me on by ?without even the slightest attempt to engage me in a discussion ?
if humans have to suffer to have free will and to disprove satan's challenge to god as mentioned in the bible...then why the f*ck do animals have to suffer as well?
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satan's challenge involved humans and not poor animals.. i'm looking for an honest explanation from believers.. at this point, the older i get, the less i believe in a god who is "love"..
Almost ,if not every living thing, on this planet lives, by feeding off some other living creature.
For the love of me I can`t see a God of Love here.
the truththe society.
the friends...you remember.
You can almost tell the JW "era" people come from by names they call their religion or leadership
So this generation the one after the former generation and the one preceding the next generation ,
so as not to be confused with any overlapping generations will be referred to as
JW.Org ,generation ,emblazoned in blue.
the sad reality for jehovah's witness children who must depend upon the courts to get critical medical care their parents reject for them, even when their lives depend upon it.
to support the irrational blood policy of the watchtower society.
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2018-12-05-three-jehovahs-witness-families-taken-to-court-to-save-childrens-lives/.
I`m finding it hard to get my head around how religious beliefs in this day and age over-ride professional medical staff for the safety and well being of minors in life and death situations .
The medical profession must have legal representatives looking after their interests so I fail to understand why in the whole world where this situation rears its ugly head from time to time ,that the WTB&TS has not been called out on this issue .
Its common knowledge on this board the hypocrisy,double standards,contradictions flip flops ,etc.of the Blood Ban,and what is acceptable and what is not acceptable ,Fractions and what you can use and what you cant use ,the fact that JW`s say that Blood should be poured out on the ground and not used for any purpose ,and yet they do all of the above except donate blood of their own but are quite happy to use blood products that are donated by non JW`s..Plus the fact that bovine products are also acceptable to them.
Surely a lawyer worth his salt should be able to make mince meat of the WT claims about the Claim that the Bible prohibits Blood Transfusions for the reasons they state and not have to go through courts to get the much needed medical treatment.
Freedom of Religion ? O.K. A person should have the right to practice his or her religion without interference except when the life of a minor is involved,or some such wording to protect the child from their parents.
Adults can take the consequences of their actions ,but dont impose this on your own children .
