smiddy you don,t just sound cynical you sound like you are still lying to yourself.
Ruby 456 i`m not sure where your coming from here ,how am I lying to myself ?
I looked back at what I said and I just don`t see it ? please enlighten me.
just got the news.
a very close classmate of mine met an accident and died last nite.... just 4 months after i da'd from the borg.. if i am still in, i wouldn't be so sad.
he has the hope of resurrection.. but now that i am out, i realise that resurrection in paradise is all bullshit.. so what's next?
smiddy you don,t just sound cynical you sound like you are still lying to yourself.
Ruby 456 i`m not sure where your coming from here ,how am I lying to myself ?
I looked back at what I said and I just don`t see it ? please enlighten me.
"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
"You can`t fight in here ,this is the war room".
Dr,Strangelove. or
"How to Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb" with Rod Steiger and Peter Sellars and Slim Pickens.
"The World won`t end With A bang But A Whimper " On the beach Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner
" The vessel from the pestle has the brew that is true" " The chalice from the palace......"
The Court jester Danny Kaye.
one of the things that helped me in my awakening and fading process from jwland was something that i call "random failures".
let me explain it.
it happened like 4 years ago.
Very good points made by all so far
.Obviously not everything is all rosy even after the thousand year reign of Christ Jesus.
Is anybody taking notice of Rev.:20 :7-10 ? Take this scripture into consideration just how could the thousand years of JC`s rule be called a period of paradise.? When it is obviously their are going to oppose the numbers which are as the sand of the sea.which will result in a war ? to end those humans who rebel in that thousand year reign and finally end Satans involvement in earths affairs ..... finally.
{Why he couldn`t / wouldn`t do it in the garden of Eden and saved us all thousands of years of human suffering is beyond me.
According to JW`s it was to prove a point ,big deal ,and millions if not billions of human beings died many with horrific deaths .
Thank you Jehovah { NOT}.
just got the news.
a very close classmate of mine met an accident and died last nite.... just 4 months after i da'd from the borg.. if i am still in, i wouldn't be so sad.
he has the hope of resurrection.. but now that i am out, i realise that resurrection in paradise is all bullshit.. so what's next?
I have hope I am going to win the lottery when I but a ticket maybe once or twice a month ,do I build my whole life around this Hope ? No of course not because I also know that the probability of winning is astronomically against my doing so.
In other words I don`t lead my life around the assumption I will win the lottery.
The hope JW`s have about resurrection ,paradise earth ,living forever ,either in heaven or on earth are all "pie in the sky" false hopes invented by charlatans posing as Bible Scholars.
I can only speak for myself and I would never want to delude myself with a false hope.
The record of Jehovah`s Witnesses speaks for itself ,it`s foundation is built on what has proved to be false hope.
I`m sorry your experiencing this loss sinboi ,death is just a part of living in the real world ,the older you get the more people die around you ,it`s just a fact of life.
I`m sorry if I sound cynical but I don`t believe in lying to myself.
While you have life live it to the full because you never know what`s around the corner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3lk8h3--ag.
I love this guy surely he is going to be the main reason many more will leave this cult religion.?
If not why not ? What more evidence do you need that this is a cult religion !
is jehovah the creator ?.
apparently jehovah created the "word" or "logos" ( jesus).
and he never created anything else according to bible scripture.. however the first born of creation the logos /jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.. so then isn`t jesus also a creator ?.
Is Jehovah the Creator ?
Apparently Jehovah created the "Word" or "Logos" ( Jesus)
And he never created anything else according to Bible scripture.
However the first born of creation the Logos /Jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.
So then isn`t Jesus also a Creator ?
Two creators ? have you ever thought about that ?
What problems does that create ?
I don`t have the answers however I would like your input to this question.
the bible states that :.
"faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for"...." the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld" heb.11:1. looking at the "true" history of the wtb&ts and not the sanitized version jehovah`s witnesses like to portray nowadays ,nothing the jw`s put faith in ,in over 103 years of their prophecy`s , expectations ,whether it related to the world powers , the king of the north or the king of the south ,the united nations (which they joined for 10 years ) as the disgusting thing that causes desolation,their now acceptance of things they accused christendom of doing such as using atm`s for donating funds,(they never solicit for money){ excuse me while i puke} .all of the failed prophecy`s of the the end/armageddon/great tribulation and the end of false religion babylon the great and the list goes on and on and on.. 1914 , 1919, 1925 ,1975 ,the year 2000 ,and of course since 1914 any day soon , just around the corner ,its imminent ,in our day ,it cant be any more than 5 years away .. 6000 years of human history ended in the late 18th century .
oops sorry ,6000 years of human history didn`t end till 1975 and that is a date that would be appropiate for jesus christ to start his 1000 year reign.. excuse me , faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for ?.
The bible states that :
"Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for"...." the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld" Heb.11:1
Looking at the "True" history of the WTB&TS and not the sanitized version Jehovah`s Witnesses like to portray nowadays ,nothing the JW`s put faith in ,in over 103 years of their prophecy`s , expectations ,whether it related to the world powers , the King of the North or the king of the South ,the United nations (which they joined for 10 years ) as the disgusting thing that causes desolation,their now acceptance of things they accused Christendom of doing such as using ATM`s for donating funds,(they never solicit for money){ excuse me while I puke} .All of the failed prophecy`s of the the End/Armageddon/great Tribulation and the end of false religion Babylon The great and the list goes on and on and on.
1914 , 1919, 1925 ,1975 ,the year 2000 ,and of course since 1914 any day soon , just around the corner ,its imminent ,in our day ,It cant be any more than 5 years away .
6000 years of human history ended in the late 18th Century
OOPS sorry ,6000 years of human history didn`t end till 1975 and that is a date that would be appropiate for Jesus Christ to start his 1000 year reign.
Excuse me , Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for ?
With Jehovah`s Witnesses it is obviously Blind Faith that they are hoping in.
seeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.
prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.
so, what was jesus?.
If Jesus was the first born of creation and then everything else came about through him and by him then isn`t Jesus the Creator of the heavens and Earth and everything on it ?
And not Jehovah ?
Do we have two creators ? Jehovah who created Jesus or the Logos as he was known then ,
And then the logos /Jesus who created everything else?
The material Universe ,earth and everything on it.?
"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.
now you will have peace for eternity.
" -- maleva, the wolf man.
It is better to be looked over ...than overlooked .
Mae west.
Is that a gun in your pocket ...or are you just happy to see me.
Lauren Bacall
Who`s on first (the whole shebang of baseball ) of Abbot and Costello
Come up and see me sometime
Mae West
Get your stinking paws off me
Charlton Heston (planet of The Apes.
When I`m good I`m very good but when I`m bad I`m better
Mae West
october 10, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation—newsletter.
britain branch relocation project edition 6 autumn 2017.
So it wont be finished till 2019 ?If it gets finished at all !