study article for october: speaking the truth.
the article is about lying, but the wt is all about lying.
i guess they are concerned with their followers lying to them!.
Isn`t "Theocratic Warfare" that Jehovah`s Witnesses engage in a form of lying ? Hiding the truth from people THEY don`t feel deserves it ?
And didn`t Jehovah God lie when he told Adam that in the day that he (or Eve ) ate of the fruit of good and bad they will surely die ?
They didn`t die on that day at all Adam lived till he was 930 ?or their abou`t
Satan told the truth when he said they wouldn`t die on the day they ate the fruit.
i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
No early first Century Christian ever talked about being a Witness of Jehovah ....NONE
I like :
Once local elders get successfully sued, the whole thing shuts down real fast
The big gaping hole through which their money is being drained by sexual abuse lawsuits.
The INTERNET
Their own literature (the older the better)
These are all good points ,any other points to share ?
How about Theocratic Warfare biting them back on the bum?
Being successfully challenged for lying or at least giving misleading information on oath E.G. the Australian Royal Commission into Institutionalized Child Sexual Abuse by the Australian Governing body member G.Jackson and the Attorney Vin Toole a JW in their employ..
there is more “ yellow journalism “ than ever before!
newscasters and writers that you thought were trustworthy often miss the mark.. do you generally accept the “news” as being honest?.
News as it is reported today either by the press ,the TV , or radio/Wireless is governed by RATINGS and SENSATIONALISM first and foremost .
And of course by the first to break the news fake or otherwise and we will deal with the flack afterward .
The INTERNET
this article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.
brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.
it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....
marked for later
when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
I don`t get this focus in the book of Revelation that Satan and presumably his Demons being cast out of Heaven and cast down to the earth after a war in heaven that J.W`s believe happened around 1918-19 ?
According to the Bible in both the O.T and the N.T. Satan and his Demons have ALWAYS been active causing mayhem down here on the earth for Centuries ?
So what the bloody hell was different ?
The real question we should be asking is ....Why was Satan and his Demons allowed to reside in heaven at all after they rebelled in Eden ? and apparently so for thousands of years up until 1919 and coming and going apparently as they pleased even before the presence of Jehovah God. ?
Jehovah never shunned him and neither did his son Jesus according to scripture.
As attested to in the Scriptures
a very strange article, suggestive.. what do you think about it?.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2018/1918-one-hundred-years-ago/.
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Jehovah`s Witnesses speak with a forked tongue , they speak out of both sides of their mouth .
I think that`s more realistic than the WT versions of Caleb and Sophia.
it just suddenly occured to me today.... you know the jws always say about adams sin being passed on to his descendants that its like you have a bread pan with a dent in it and that every loaf of bread will then have a dent?
well that's fine for bread, cos your using the same pan.
but that's not how genetics work?.
Maybe Adams sperm had a dent in it and he passed it along to his children and then their children passed along a dent in their sperm to their children and so on and so on and so on
What about all of the scriptures that state the sins of the father will be poured out on the offspring to the third and fourth generations ?
