this is so touching that i had to post it again in a new thread.. thanks, smiddy!.
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Thank you CoCo and The Fall Guy for posting those images.They are amazing .
Where about`s were you rB if you don`t mind my asking.? Pm me if you like .
The closest I ever got to bushfires was in a mopping up operation after fires had gone through East Gippsland in the mid 1970`s when I had a stint in the forestry Industry.
take as many books and magazines that you can from the carts and then the watchtower will have to spend money that they dont have to replace the books and magazines.
But the poor dubs buy them from Watchtower, surely?
Is that the situation nowady`s ? that the publishers buy the publications from the W.T.Org. they put on carts and they give them away free to whoever wants them ?
Is that how it works today ?
The Organization is not out of pocket financially ,the burden falls upon the publishers ?
tell me its not true . I`ve got it wrong.
a pastor lovingly approaches a jw.
granted the jw is not that that willing, knowledgeable or eloquent.
but he does succeed in getting her to open up.
Sorry to put a dampner on his approach but I thought he gave these two mature aged ladies too much information that their is no way in the world could they take it all in .
As well as throwing in that God was identified by another name in the passages of the old Testament he quoted ?
I think it would have all gone well over their heads and they wouldn`t even remember a fraction of what he was on about let alone look anything up that he encouraged them to do.
Don`t get me wrong he did a marvellous job in his presentation it was just wasted on two old ladies counting time with no real Bible knowledge .
Just my 2 cents worth.
today a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
The real issue here as I see it ,is that while Jehovah`s Witnesses have in house investigations of child sexual abuse among its members, victims/perpetrators by a judicial committee consisting of three male Elders ,they feel they are under no obligation to report these allegations to either the child protection authorities or the police unless they are mandated to do so .?
Don`t they have a moral/ethical responsibility to do so when its a minor involved ? Obviously not because they do not do so.
Because its not mandated for them to do so should that excuse them from not reporting an alleged crime when they become aware of it especially when it involves a child ?
For them to say that is the family`s right to do so is a cop out because they caution the family against such a course because it will bring reproach on Jehovah`s name.
And in many cases where it is mandated that they report such abuse the Elders fail to do so .
i hope you're not dealing with wildfires in your area.
currently, california is under siege.
we, in the sierra nevada foothills, had our major conflagration last october and needed to evacuate.
Fires of that magnitude can be so fierce and deadly ,I don`t envy your situation CoCo .Take care and stay safe and if you have to evacuate at any time do not make the mistake of leaving it to the last minute as some unfortunates do.
edit to add : My heart bleeds for the poor wildlife that get burnt and destroyed when fires rage through forests { apart from the human sufferings } Here in Australia their was a classic photo of a firefighter giving a Koala a drink out of a water bottle after it survived a bushfire .i wish I could show it .
fantastic news just in: daniel kokotajlo’s film apostasy about a jw family facing the blood issue and - ahem - a daughter who apostatises - was released late last week in the united kingdom.
even though it received limited release in its first weekend and is going to be in more cinemas this weekend, it has entered the top 15 films at no.
12 - a magnificent result for a highly acclaimed film made on a shoe string.
Great news ,I wonder if its going to get a cinema release here in Oz and where and when ?
Or even a streaming release with one of the networks
quite regularly at meetings jws mocked worldly people and apostates(anyone who had left the "truth") for saying the bible contradicts itself when it is in complete harmony from beginning to end apparently.
can anyone point out some of the contradictions they know of?
they used to laugh at the fact people on the doors would say the bible contradicts itself and when they asked the householder to show them where, they couldn't..
Who struck Goliath down Jonathan or David.?
2 Sam.21: 19-22 Jonathan
1.Sam.17:54-57 David
quite regularly at meetings jws mocked worldly people and apostates(anyone who had left the "truth") for saying the bible contradicts itself when it is in complete harmony from beginning to end apparently.
can anyone point out some of the contradictions they know of?
they used to laugh at the fact people on the doors would say the bible contradicts itself and when they asked the householder to show them where, they couldn't..
Use the search option at the top right hand corner of the page and type in"Contradictions of the Bible "and you will get heaps.
it's a case of two down and one to go.
my darling daughter has announced to the extended family that she has left jehovah's witnesses!
deep joy!.
Both you and your daughter have my congratulations also H.b.
i feel confident that most visitors to this site, understand the essential conflict at the heart of christianity.
how could jesus be fully human and simultaneously be a divine being who descended (supposedly, some thing jesus specifically claimed to be) from heaven.. as jws we may have solved this tricky point by saying that yahweh transferred the life of jesus into mary's womb, and so jesus was born fully human.. but if we remove the blindfold of faith, we immediately 'see' the problem.
in our contemporary view of the reproductive process, we can be certain that there is a female 'egg,' that is fertilised by male sperm.
Mary was born in sin like every other human being according to the Bible their is nothing in the Bible to say otherwise .
That being the case Jesus could not have been born perfect without sin , he must have inherited the sins of his mother regardless of who his father was.
According to the Bible Jesus was much more than a human ,he could control the weather ,and he could walk on water ,and he could perform miracles ,.?
No human including the perfect man Adam could do any of these feats so how is it possible that the Bible claims Jesus to be a corresponding ransom for mankind ?
He was a sinner with super human powers that no man ever had according to what we read in the Bible.
I thought this subject needed to be re-visited
